... never-the-less we should start tagging lamp-posts so we can easily
find somewhere to hang those filthy cloudmade running dogs.
;-)
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark Boslet, the Editor of Techpulse360 has modified the article to "correct
>> any misimpre
Mark Boslet, the Editor of Techpulse360 has modified the article to "correct
any misimpression".
The title is now "OpenStreetMap wants to be the Wikipedia of Maps" and the
body of the article now clearly distinguishes between CloudMade and us.
80n
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Frederik Ramm
Hi!
Peter Miller schrieb:
> There have been reasons for concern, many of which have been raised in
> the past on this list and on legal-talk in the past and we don't need
> to raise them again. I really hope that we will all be able to learn
> from them and avoid the understandable wariness
According to the style rules of the Italian press, interviewers have a certain
margin to summarize in a striking short sentence the words of the person who is
interviewed, and put that sentence in the headline between double quotes. So if
Steve Coast is one day interviewed by an Italian journali
On 11 Mar 2009, at 12:26, Ben Laenen wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 March 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> It has been pointed out that Steve, apart from being a CM manager, is
>> also the founder of the project and thus has to juggle various roles.
>> Please then accept that besides running Geofabrik, I,
On 11 Mar 2009, at 12:07, Nick Black wrote:
What I'd ask is that the OSM community, particularly community
leaders, look beyond slip-ups like the quotes in this article, and
look at the enormous benefits that the involvement of organizations
like CloudMade, GeoFabrik, ITO, AND and many
On Wednesday 11 March 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> It has been pointed out that Steve, apart from being a CM manager, is
> also the founder of the project and thus has to juggle various roles.
> Please then accept that besides running Geofabrik, I, too, am an
> active member of the OSM community an
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote:
> You have to explain how your rants help the project. The impression
> I get is that you cause division rather than unity. Is that your goal?
>
> That seems destructive and irrational. If you want the public to
> understand the difference
Lars Aronsson wrote:
> You have to explain how your rants help the project.
> The impression I get is that you cause division rather than unity.
On a point of order, getting all "meta" on a flamewar like this is the most
surefire way to prolong it.
cheers
Richard
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This is coming from me as a long-term OSM contributer and CloudMade founder.
First, its great that the overall tone of this thread is positive. It
sounds like lots of people have experienced journalists misinterpreting
things. In fact, the problem isn't journalists - I explain OSM, and
particular
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I, too, am an active member of the OSM community and entitled to
> voice my opinion in this capacity.
Since when is OSM a platform for voicing opinions? Is it suddenly
a democracy? We're here to make maps. You have to explain how
your rants help the project. The impr
Stephen Hope wrote:
> And you can't always blame the journalists, either. Once they
> send their copy in, the editors can have a go at it as well.
If I may speak up for editors, a lot of journalists could avoid this
unfortunate necessity by Actually Learning To Write.
cheers
Richard
(Incidenta
And you can't always blame the journalists, either. Once they send
their copy in, the editors can have a go at it as well. I've seen
perfectly good and factual articles become very inaccurate as the
editors try and make it fit in half the space with bit of cut and
paste. You'd think these days the
Hi,
2009/3/11 Frederik Ramm :
> as an OSM community member, I'm taking offence at the following article:
> http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/10/startup-cloudmade-wants-to-be-the-wikipedia-of-maps/
>
> The article says that Cloudmade "relies on its OpenStreetMap project", and:
[factual errors, con
Lars,
Lars Aronsson wrote:
> If you asked the same journalist to interview you about Geofabrik,
> that would have a much better effect for the public understanding
> of OpenStreetMap's role than your current rants.
It has been pointed out that Steve, apart from being a CM manager, is
also the
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> as an OSM community member, I'm taking offence at the
> following article:
That article can indeed generate some unfortunate
misinterpretations, but as you admit, it's hard to control what
journalists write about you. Still, your first instinct is to
attack Steve a
another fantastic
1. Someone makes a mistake
2. ???
3. It's Steves fault
Bet you were itching to make todays Guardian mistake my fault too, eh?
I can tell you Frederik that I and the rest of us at CloudMade take
great pains to explain the differences between CM and OSM
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I know that the press always write what they want (or what they think
> they understand) and not necessarily what you tell them.
>
> However, this is not the first time that the OpenStreetMap project has
> been confused with Cloudmade by the
As a lurking OSM community member who has read many many tech articles
that are factually wrong through no fault of the company and who has
stood next to Steve Coast a number of times as he explained what
CloudMade does, I feel the need to opine that this article is a
reasonable balance of fact and
Hi,
as an OSM community member, I'm taking offence at the following article:
http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/10/startup-cloudmade-wants-to-be-the-wikipedia-of-maps/
The article says that Cloudmade "relies on its OpenStreetMap project", and:
“This is going to be the map of the future,” says
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