Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-16 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
Google, yes. Google's lawyers, no ;) On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 4:07 AM Simon Poole wrote: > Actually I think the more important question is: doesn't google have a > better method to create a background map than screenshots? :-) > (particularly noticeable due to the POI pins in the 2nd and third >

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-15 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
Of course Google *can* afford a lawyer and bureaucracy does not legally or physically limit their ability to act, but I think you underestimate the *practical* limitations. Even the smallest amount of bureaucracy and cost (which just adds more bureaucracy, because the cost must be approved) makes

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-15 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
Hi Martin, Yes, Google might already have a subsidiary in a country (since they have them in many but certainly not in all countries) but they would still have to "go" there in the sense that: 1) I very much doubt the subsidiary would already have a plaintiff-side copyright attorney on speed dial,

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Apr 2019, at 10:48, Kathleen Lu wrote: > > For Berne counties, I think it technically depends on where the > "infringement" takes place, whatever that would mean in this scenario the information is stored and distributed from the UK, the mapper is more likely to

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-14 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all Well, these are great inputs so thank you I agree that the document were committed by Google to FCC. Le dim. 14 avr. 2019 à 10:51, Kathleen Lu via talk a écrit : > > For Berne counties, I think it technically depends on where the > "infringement" takes place, whatever that would mean

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-14 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
For Berne counties, I think it technically depends on where the "infringement" takes place, whatever that would mean in this scenario, but the idea that Google would go to another country to spend $$$ to sue over this one line is preposterous to me. Let me put it this way: I would be comfortable

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Apr 2019, at 09:47, Kathleen Lu via talk > wrote: > > My opinion as a copyright lawyer is that there is nothing copyrightable in > the single line that consists of the proposed route, under US law. > Of course others are free to disagree. are you sure that US

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-14 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
My opinion as a copyright lawyer is that there is nothing copyrightable in the single line that consists of the proposed route, under US law. Of course others are free to disagree. On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 9:36 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > de minimis is applicable in cases where copyrighted

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
de minimis is applicable in cases where copyrighted content is unimportant addition to work it certainly does not apply in case where you copy solely that content For example de minimis apply if you take photo and there is a movie poster in the background. It stops to apply once you crop to

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-13 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
The linked document was filed by GN's attorneys, submitted to the FCC, not authored by the FCC. That said, the level of detail on the map is so small that I personally would deem any copying de minimus. On Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 11:30 PM Clifford Snow wrote: > > François, > The US FCC should be

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-13 Thread Clifford Snow
François, The US FCC should be public domain unless otherwise indicated. Best, Clifford On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:48 AM François Lacombe wrote: > Hi all, > > Google is currently rolling out several submarine telecommunication cable > systems and Amercian FCC actually publishes application

[OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-13 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all, Google is currently rolling out several submarine telecommunication cable systems and Amercian FCC actually publishes application documents describing them. Such one regards the Dunant system between Virginia Beach and Saint-Hilaire-de-Riez in France