Re: [OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread Simon Poole
Am 17.02.2020 um 23:42 schrieb Yves: > .. > ... or worse, not using the brand at all on their maps for the same goal! > Yves > Actually no, and I'm fairly sure that is the "BIG MISUNDERSTANDING". If somebody doesn't provide sufficient attribution that doesn't run away, and we can, for all

Re: [OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread Yves
Le 17 février 2020 23:10:55 GMT+01:00, Simon Poole a écrit >misusing the OpenStreetMap brand and marks by so >many other organisations with the goal of  profiting from OSMs >popularity. ... or worse, not using the brand at all on their maps for the same goal! Yves

Re: [OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread Simon Poole
In no particular role, specifically no official OSMF one: Can't we resolve this by moving the logo and potentially other ones to an explicit category: "Fun, parody and other, not totally serious, remixes of the OSM logo, not endorsed by anybody" With a different hat on: it would be really nice

Re: [OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread dcapillae
Hi, Christoph. There's some confusion here: Christoph Hormann-2 wrote > If you want the OSMF members to start an initiative to change the OSMF > trademark policy to forbid certain uses you should try to convince them > to do that, not Rory. I do not wish to initiate anything or convice

Re: [OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread dcapillae
Hi, Mario. Yes, something like that. I think it is appropriate to keep the discussion in terms of legitimate/abusive, authorized/unauthorized, etc., and to avoid talking about offenses or feelings. (That's another evil path that I've also had the misfortune to suffer) If the OSMF considers it

Re: [OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 17 February 2020, dcapillae wrote: > > The logo will continue on the wiki until the page is deleted. The > procedure for deleting wiki pages is describe on the wiki. [1] > > You don't have to accept the deletion if you don't agree. As I said > in my first message, the rights holder is

Re: [OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread Mario Frasca
Hi Rory and Daniel, I don't understand… someone (A) made something (B) that others (GGG) think it's inappropriate, and the authority involved is the OSMF, right? now why do G, G, and G need to convince A that B was wrong after all, and that A needs to remove B? wasn't it the OSMF, the

Re: [OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread dcapillae
Hi, Rory. The logo will continue on the wiki until the page is deleted. The procedure for deleting wiki pages is describe on the wiki. [1] You don't have to accept the deletion if you don't agree. As I said in my first message, the rights holder is the OSM Foundation, and only they decide. It

Re: [OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Rory McCann wrote: > The existence of an OSM cycling logo doesn't mean all > OSMers have to be cycling activists! Wait, what? cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/General-Discussion-f5171242.html ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread Rory McCann
In order to keep the peace, I'll voluntarily delete that image from the OSM Wiki (as best I can). But the file is out there in the wild, you can't stop the internet. I am only a random person at a keyboard, I'm too much of a wuss to throw stones at cops, I'm not a black block antifa