Jochen Topf schrieb:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote:
>> To be clear, I don't have a problem with tagging the actual location of the
>> house or building. I think it's unnecessary, but the problem I have with the
>> scheme is that it doesn't definitively link the node
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Karl Newman wrote:
> >Sent: 29 July 2008 6:48 PM
> >To: Jochen Topf
> >Cc: talk
> >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion
> >
> >
Karl Newman wrote:
>Sent: 29 July 2008 6:48 PM
>To: Jochen Topf
>Cc: talk
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion
>
>On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Jochen Topf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700
Karl Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Sent: 29 July 2008 6:17 PM
>To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
>Cc: Jan-Benedict Glaw; Frederik Ramm; talk
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion
>
>On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadd
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Jochen Topf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote:
> > To be clear, I don't have a problem with tagging the actual location of
> the
> > house or building. I think it's unnecessary, but the problem I have with
> t
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote:
> To be clear, I don't have a problem with tagging the actual location of the
> house or building. I think it's unnecessary, but the problem I have with the
> scheme is that it doesn't definitively link the node with the way (what's a
> h
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The reason I don't like ideas like this is that the data you are adding to
> the way (or as Frederik pointed out possibly also the intersections) is not
> actually anything to do with the physical fe
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
>Sent: 29 July 2008 11:33 AM
>To: Frederik Ramm
>Cc: talk
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion
>
>On Tue, 2008-07-29 12:02:34 +0200, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> Tagging house numbers onto int
On Tue, 2008-07-29 12:02:34 +0200, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tagging house numbers onto intersections or ways is just a lame
> workaround employed by many existing data sets because they can't
> model every single house. I have absolutely zero doubt that sooner or
> later, OS
Hi,
> I once had a look at the Karlsruhe Schema and i found it "ugly" from a
> technical point of view. In my world one wants explicit links between
> two objects but the proposal simply draws points or polygons "next to"
> something which is not a explicit link.
That's correct. Many people seem
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 07:12:54PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion
>
> Hi,
>
> > I added one suggestion to the "House Numbers" page. It's the eighth one.
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php
On Jul 29, 2008, at 00:40, Karl Newman wrote:
> Don't overestimate the usage of the current data scheme, though. The
> Germans are prolific mappers, but I would be surprised if there are
> even a few thousand addresses entered in the current format, if that.
According to tagwatch, around 2
Maybe some words about how the whole house number stuff in Karlsruhe
came about, will help understand, what we had in mind:
We looked at the different proposals and saw that there was a difficult
problem that had gotten stuck. Many ideas, but no progress. But it needed
to be addressed, because add
Matthieu,
> I would like to have it approved... Just imagine what would happen if
> the Karlsruhe schema is declared unefficient, and must be disregarded
> (for some reason, such as the ones explained by Karl). All the data
> would be lost, or would require huge processing for conversion into a
>
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Charlie Echo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >Hi,
> >> If things are clear, and if there is a consensus about using this
> Karlsruhe schema, let's have a vote on it.
> >> This will make things easier: we would then have a clean situation. This
> would enable people to
>Hi,
>> If things are clear, and if there is a consensus about using this Karlsruhe
>> schema, let's have a vote on it.
>> This will make things easier: we would then have a clean situation. This
>> would enable people to enter the data.
>I don't think you have fully understood what I was saying
Am Montag, 28. Juli 2008 20:37 schrieb Karl Newman:
> It's not "a bit more difficult", it's a huge burden. It means you presume
> the data consumer has to be working from a database that contains the
> entire area you're interested in (maybe the planet?).
You can safely assume that a house is almo
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Karl Newman wrote:
>
>> Given a street, I'd have to look through NN million nodes to find the
>> closest ones
>>
>
> No. The nodes are tagged with street names, thus duplicating info found on
> the way. You just n
Hi,
Karl Newman wrote:
> Given a street, I'd have to look through NN million nodes to find the
> closest ones
No. The nodes are tagged with street names, thus duplicating info found
on the way. You just need an index on that field, look up the street
name in the index, and immediately know all
With the current scheme how would one numbering blocks of flats?
there is no explicit allowance in the current scheme as far as i can see.
On 7/28/08, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Charlie Echo
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> If things are clear, and
Hi,
> If things are clear, and if there is a consensus about using this Karlsruhe
> schema, let's have a vote on it.
> This will make things easier: we would then have a clean situation. This
> would enable people to enter the data.
I don't think you have fully understood what I was saying. The
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Charlie Echo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> If things are clear, and if there is a consensus about using this Karlsruhe
> schema, let's have a vote on it.
>
> This will make things easier: we would then have a clean situation. This
> would enable people to enter the
tmap"
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Frederik Ramm wrote:
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|> I really have a problem with this &#x
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Frederik Ramm wrote:
| Hi,
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|> I really have a problem with this 'way' linking address nodes in the
|> Karlsruhe schema. We know that the relation has been created for that.
|> This 'way' is just here because some people do not know (or don't want
|>
Hi,
> I really have a problem with this 'way' linking address nodes in the
> Karlsruhe schema. We know that the relation has been created for that.
> This 'way' is just here because some people do not know (or don't want
> to know) how to use relations in the editors.
Then use a relation inst
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using the "Karlsruhe Schema"
> These interpolation rules are explicitly modeled as a new way connecting
> the
> nodes, which may look a but unusual at first but (a) it's going to go
> away once editors learn how to "di
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I find that very confusing.
>
> I'm using the "Karlsruhe Schema"
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/House_numbers
Ok, I've looked at this and I'm missing the case where a building has
a number of s
Frederik Ramm wrote:
>Sent: 25 July 2008 6:13 PM
>To: Charlie Echo
>Cc: talk
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion
>
>Hi,
>
>> I added one suggestion to the "House Numbers" page. It's the eighth one.
>> http://wiki.openstreetm
Hi,
> I added one suggestion to the "House Numbers" page. It's the eighth one.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/House_numbers
I find that very confusing.
I'm using the "Karlsruhe Schema"
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/House_numbers
and if yo
Hello,
I added one suggestion to the "House Numbers" page. It's the eighth one.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/House_numbers
I really think we must solve this issue quickly, for two reasons:
- it will make the map really more attractive. We must have a map at the same
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