Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-15 Thread Lester Caine
80n wrote: Please move this discussion to legal-talk. BUT ... the discussion on adding a weekly summary of legal-talk HERE should happen HERE. I can't be bothered with all of the back biting, but a sensible coverage of the salient point DOES make sense and one post a week ... which other int

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-14 Thread 80n
Please move this discussion to legal-talk. On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Love your mail Frederik. You've explained it way better than I could. I'm > definitely now in the "meh" camp and would rather a weekly or fortnightly > digest of what has happened on legal talk, ra

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-14 Thread Shaun McDonald
Love your mail Frederik. You've explained it way better than I could. I'm definitely now in the "meh" camp and would rather a weekly or fortnightly digest of what has happened on legal talk, rather than all the discussion spilling over from legal talk. Thus getting the best of both worlds of bei

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Kai, Kai Krueger wrote: P.S. Frederik, looks like we are getting closer to your beloved monthly printed high gloss OSM members magazin... ;-) Not my idea - nicked it from FakeSteveC: http://fakestevec.blogspot.com/2009/03/future-of-communications-is-happening.html Bye Frederik -- Frederik R

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Kai Krueger
Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Maybe we could have a weekly, or bi-weekly, "legal-talk digest" posted > to the talk list. Written by someone who quietly observes, and perhaps > picks a few exemplary links: "This week on legal-talk: New insights on > the legality of mapping military areas in Russia

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Andrew Ayre
Alan Mintz wrote: At 2010-08-13 14:09, Frederik Ramm wrote: Liz wrote: If a poster wishes to spread a message more widely to the community, they should be quite free to do so. That's the thinking that killed any worthwhile Usenet groups once the internet became available to everyone, sadly d

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Vincent Pottier
On 13/08/2010 22:41, Liz wrote: I think that is censorship. Not every person on talk belongs to legal-talk. If a poster wishes to spread a message more widely to the community, they should be quite free to do so. If a poster says on this ML : "there is an important debate on legal-talk about

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-08-13 14:09, Frederik Ramm wrote: Liz wrote: If a poster wishes to spread a message more widely to the community, they should be quite free to do so. That's the thinking that killed any worthwhile Usenet groups once the internet became available to everyone, sadly destroying a (mostly

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 13.08.2010 23:09, schrieb Frederik Ramm: The problem is: The system is there to balance your right to say something and the receiver's right to not be bothered by what you have to say. Someone who is interested in legal topics is invited to join legal-talk. Someone who isn't should not have t

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On 8/13/10, Frederik Ramm wrote: > [...] > Maybe we could have a weekly, or bi-weekly, "legal-talk digest" posted > to the talk list. Written by someone who quietly observes, and perhaps > picks a few exemplary links: [...] This would be interesting: topics on legal are probably important enough

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Liz, Liz wrote: If a poster wishes to spread a message more widely to the community, they should be quite free to do so. That's basically the same argument that we had for ages on Usenet groups where people would post offtopic messages because they wanted to reach the target audience. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Holger Meyer
Liz wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, SteveC wrote: Please move all legal discussion (except announcements of course) to http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk or http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-general Steve stevecoast.com I think that is cens

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Toby Murray
Every person on talk who wants to discuss the legal nuances of OSM licensing belongs on legal-talk. I have my license preferences and opinions but at the end of the day I will probably continue to contribute to OSM whether ODbL happens, CC remains or the whole thing goes to PD. It isn't censorship,

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Liz
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, SteveC wrote: > Please move all legal discussion (except announcements of course) to > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > or > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-general > > Steve > > stevecoast.com > I think that is censors

[OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread SteveC
Please move all legal discussion (except announcements of course) to http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk or http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-general Steve stevecoast.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre