Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, colliar wrote: I am not willed to map every tree in the forest or ever sand grain in the dessert to compete in this list. On 25.05.2013 16:28, Simon Poole wrote: I believe you fundamentally misunderstood the purpose of the list, higher up is not "better". ;) The real purpose for me to

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-25 Thread Simon Poole
Am 25.05.2013 15:41, schrieb colliar: > I am not willed to map every tree in the forest or ever sand grain in > the dessert to compete in this list. Colliar I believe you fundamentally misunderstood the purpose of the list, higher up is not "better". Simon __

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-25 Thread colliar
On 24.05.2013 21:51, Frederik Ramm wrote: > On 24.05.2013 18:30, Christoph Hormann wrote: >> By the way you do realize that Cameroon and other equatorial areas have >> a significant advantage to higher latitudes in this measurement. So it >> might be prudent to not only say 'FSVO mapped' but also

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Someone said that taking the area into account should improve the results > for Indonesia; either I did something wrong ior the opposite is the case - > Indonesia featured at #23 before and has now dropped completely off the > list. > That

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Russ Nelson
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > Because it means that this is probably dead data without a community behind > it to fix problems and to do updates. That reason is *exactly* why I said back in 2006 that OSM should be in the public domain, because if you take data away from the community, it's dead

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 24 May 2013, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > I re-did the list with "nodes per square kilometre", although this > also renders the basic idea of looking at z16 meta tiles kind of > arbitrary. Yes, it even gives a slight disadvantage of the equatorial areas now: They need to achieve a high mapp

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 24.05.2013 18:30, Christoph Hormann wrote: By the way you do realize that Cameroon and other equatorial areas have a significant advantage to higher latitudes in this measurement. So it might be prudent to not only say 'FSVO mapped' but also 'FSVO densely'. I re-did the list with "node

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Interesting in any case. .. And it should be easy to adjust the "denseness" of the mapping on the tiles vs latitude. .. Possible to see such update (if not already done)? Cheers, -Jaakko --Original Message-- From: Christoph Hormann To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
By the way you do realize that Cameroon and other equatorial areas have a significant advantage to higher latitudes in this measurement. So it might be prudent to not only say 'FSVO mapped' but also 'FSVO densely'. In a quick estimate the area scale ratio between Cameroon and France is abou

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Since the list provided ranks the metatiles in terms of the number of nodes, It might be better to also normalize the number of nodes with the area covered by the z16 metatile. A tile far from the equator covers more area than a tile near the equator. For example, a z16 tile in Helsinki covers arou

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Pieren
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Dave F. wrote: > OK, so anyone know if this Cameroon area is actually imported? It seems > surprising for them to have done a survey of every tree. You should ask this person: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2013-April/001914.html Pieren __

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Dave F.
On 24/05/2013 14:09, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: interesting, but it's a pity that really a lot of them seem to be "mapped" by import rather than OSM mappers. OK, so anyone know if this Cameroon area is actually imported? It seems surprising for them to have done a survey of every tree. Dav

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Ben Abelshausen
I have been in Cameroon with the EUROSHA hot volunteers. There was someone from Cameroon (but living in France) that imported lots of data, but, because of this people are very impressed with OSM over there and now they are starting to really build their community: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wi

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread osm
On Fri, 24 May 2013 20:49:33 +0700 Pavel Melnikov wrote: > OMG, they have imported positions of every tree in the area! (I am > looking at this one: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=3.84358&lon=11.48785&zoom=16&layers=M) > Looks very pretty but where are the street names, poi's, footways, cr

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Pavel Melnikov
OMG, they have imported positions of every tree in the area! (I am looking at this one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=3.84358&lon=11.48785&zoom=16&layers=M) On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > 2013/5/24 Frederik Ramm > >> Hi, >> >>I've made an updatd list

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 24 May 2013, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > I've made an updatd list of densely mapped areas in OSM. > > http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/density/ > > You might be surprised to hear that the top four most densely mapped > areas in OSM are in Cameroon! I incidently saw that in Camero

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Pieren
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > Because it means that this is probably dead data without a community behind > it to fix problems and to do updates. Endless story. That's the "anti-imports" theory : a map looking "complete" does not call for new contributions. Which means tha

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Pascal Neis
Hi, pec...@gmail.com schrieb: 2013/5/24 Martin Koppenhoefer interesting, but it's a pity that really a lot of them seem to be "mapped" by import rather than OSM mappers. It is bad because? ... no local community!? there u go: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?lat=3.84233&lon=11.49

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/5/24 pec...@gmail.com > 2013/5/24 Martin Koppenhoefer > >> >> >> interesting, but it's a pity that really a lot of them seem to be >> "mapped" by import rather than OSM mappers. >> >> > It is bad because? > > Because it means that this is probably dead data without a community behind i

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread pec...@gmail.com
2013/5/24 Martin Koppenhoefer > > > interesting, but it's a pity that really a lot of them seem to be "mapped" > by import rather than OSM mappers. > > It is bad because? Peter. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/5/24 Frederik Ramm > Hi, > >I've made an updatd list of densely mapped areas in OSM. > > http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.**org/density/ > interesting, but it's a pity that really a lot of them seem to be "mapped" by import rather than OSM mappe

[OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I've made an updatd list of densely mapped areas in OSM. http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/density/ You might be surprised to hear that the top four most densely mapped areas in OSM are in Cameroon! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'