Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-16 Thread Mike Harris
Hi I've been looking at this thread with interest and it is probably at risk of resurrecting the endless (?) debate about the use of foot-way, path etc. tags. Without expressing any personal view, to avoid reopening that debate, I would merely note that - rightly or wrongly - the highway=foot

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Liz
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/3/15 Steve Bennett : > > So Roy suggests "smoothness" and you suggest "sac_scale". Neither is > > really definitive. > > I don't get you here. What do you mean by "really definitive"? By > August 2009 we had 36770 occurencies of sac_scale in o

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 March 2010 09:08, wrote: > >> >>> .. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to >> >>> distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. > > A footpath can be traversed by a weelchair, perambulator or shopping > trolley? There was a presentation on routing from SoTM09 tha

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/16 : >> >>> .. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to >> >>> distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. > A footpath can be traversed by a weelchair, perambulator or shopping > trolley? I'd say to estimate this you should have a surface-tag and ideally also a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
> >>> .. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to > >>> distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. A footpath can be traversed by a weelchair, perambulator or shopping trolley? Regards, Nick *** WAR

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/15 Patrick Kilian : > As of march 6th we are at 65,375 according to > http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/search.php?query=sac_scale Thank you for looking this up. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.op

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi, >> So Roy suggests "smoothness" and you suggest "sac_scale". Neither is >> really definitive. > I don't get you here. What do you mean by "really definitive"? By > August 2009 we had 36770 occurencies of sac_scale in our database [1] > Probably in the meantime it became even more. AFAIK it is

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/15 Steve Bennett : > So Roy suggests "smoothness" and you suggest "sac_scale". Neither is > really definitive. I don't get you here. What do you mean by "really definitive"? By August 2009 we had 36770 occurencies of sac_scale in our database [1] Probably in the meantime it became even mor

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >>> .. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to >>> distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. > > > have a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale for > detailed classification. So Roy sugges

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/12 Roy Wallace : > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: >> >> .. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to >> distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. have a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale for detailed classification.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-13 Thread Seventy 7
> So mtb:scale=5 would be a vertical cliff? > Have you seen the video that plays in the Blacks outdoor shops?? "Yes" would be the answer! Incredible. -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Po

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 11/03/2010 11:58, Nick Whitelegg a écrit : > Hello everyone, > > Thanks for the responses on this. What I would like to do this year is > really try to bring together everyone on the list who is interested in > developing OSM software (both web and mobile) for walkers (hikers) so that > we can m

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Lars Ahlzen
Mike N. wrote: >> I'm very much in favour of improving both the quality of hiking data, >> and its representation (particularly outside Europe). But do make an >> effort to consolidate the existing material rather than just adding >> another layer of paint over the top. > > Exactly - I'm just at

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Craig Wallace
On 12/03/2010 10:23, Nick Whitelegg wrote: >>(PS I used the S.O.S (Spawn of Satan) tag 'path' , so I'm not sure > how >> many of my trails will work with other stylesheets) > > "path" isn't Spawn of Satan! ;-) > > What is Spawn of Satan, here in the UK at least, is "foot=yes". ;-) This > is co

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Mike N.
>> Exactly - I'm just at the point where I need a high quality hiking / >> biking map in a relatively small region in the US. > > Maybe http://hikebikemap.de works for you? I like it as a start; the colors of the main roads are muted which is good. And I like the map legend which is necessary fo

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Colin Marquardt
2010/3/12 Mike N. : > Exactly - I'm just at the point where I need a high quality hiking / > biking map in a relatively small region in the US. Maybe http://hikebikemap.de works for you? Cheers Colin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg
> (PS I used the S.O.S (Spawn of Satan) tag 'path' , so I'm not sure how >many of my trails will work with other stylesheets) "path" isn't Spawn of Satan! ;-) What is Spawn of Satan, here in the UK at least, is "foot=yes". ;-) This is completely ambiguous, either use "designated" for a desi

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
:51:00 To: Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going! > (And similarly, how to distinguish between a bike path and a mountain > bike track). I added mtb:scale to mountain bike tracks. But around here, even the steepest, roughest terrain is only 1 or 2 out

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > > .. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to > distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. For "smooth"ness, use surface=* For width, use width=* > (And similarly, how to distinguish between a bike path and a mou

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread Mike N.
> (And similarly, how to distinguish between a bike path and a mountain > bike track). I added mtb:scale to mountain bike tracks. But around here, even the steepest, roughest terrain is only 1 or 2 out of a scale of 5. I think mtb:scale=3 is something like leaping off 1 meter boulders (On

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Mike N. wrote: >   (PS  I used the S.O.S (Spawn of Satan) tag 'path' , so I'm not sure how > many of my trails will work with other stylesheets) Depends how else you tag them. Afaik, "highway=path foot=designated" is supposed to be (or is, in mapnik at least) equ

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread Mike N.
> I'm very much in favour of improving both the quality of hiking data, > and its representation (particularly outside Europe). But do make an > effort to consolidate the existing material rather than just adding > another layer of paint over the top. Exactly - I'm just at the point where I need

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > So I'd like to collect together a number of initial idea. I've started a > template wiki page: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_for_walkers There is already quite a lot of information in the wiki about hiking maps etc, at the very

[OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Thanks for the responses on this. What I would like to do this year is really try to bring together everyone on the list who is interested in developing OSM software (both web and mobile) for walkers (hikers) so that we can make a good go of exchanging ideas and developing softw