Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-21 Thread Sam Wilson
On 2010-10-13 3:50 PM, Sam Wilson wrote: Hi, I work for a company in Western Australia that has a dozen or so vehicles traveling all over regional WA and all equipped with GPS trackers, taking waypoints at 30s intervals. I am going to be allowed to upload the data to OSM. I'm just wonderin

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Sam Wilson wrote: > On 2010-10-16 10:01 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > >> Also IIRC you can use gpsbabel to set the >> timestamps in your file to one second gaps beginning at unix epoch, so >> that would give your vehicles outrageous speeds during 1970. >> >> Also you

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-21 Thread Sam Wilson
On 2010-10-16 10:01 AM, Richard Weait wrote: Also IIRC you can use gpsbabel to set the timestamps in your file to one second gaps beginning at unix epoch, so that would give your vehicles outrageous speeds during 1970. Also you can choose the privacy settings for your traces to prevent sharing

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-16 Thread Steve Bennett
Or, if there are clear working hours, ditch anything before 9am or after 6pm, or whatever. Steve On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Alan Millar wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Sam Wilson wrote: >>    Hmm... there will be a concentration of points near drivers' >> homes... but then again

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-16 Thread Alan Millar
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Sam Wilson wrote: >  Hmm... there will be a concentration of points near drivers' > homes... but then again, also near every place they stop as well.  Is this > something to worry about? If you felt protective about it, you could make a list of polygons surround

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Sam Wilson wrote: > We've got, it looks like, the last three months or so of tracks from about > twenty vehicles, and I can break the data up into whatever chunks I want. >  I've been working with one track file per seven days, which seems to be > about a 6-8MB gpx

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-15 Thread Sam Wilson
On 16/10/10 10:01 AM, Richard Weait wrote: I'd also double check that there aren't privacy concerns - gpx traces contain time information - is your company happy releasing that? Would it compromise them? Do the drivers get a say? Good point. If privacy or business practices are a concern, you

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: >> But really: is this worthwhile?  Will my company benefit?  Will OSM benefit? > I'd also double check that there aren't privacy concerns - gpx traces > contain time information - is your company happy releasing that? Would > it compromise th

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-15 Thread Steve Bennett
> But really: is this worthwhile?  Will my company benefit?  Will OSM benefit? Hi Sam, it definitely sounds worthwhile to me, and your company and OSM will benefit. One thing you didn't mention: how many gpx tracks do you have so far? Or is this just for going forward? If you can increase the fre

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-14 Thread Chris Browet
> > I've been looking into the format that the traces will come in, and it > looks like a weekly NMEA dump is going to be the least work for me -- a > single file, with all vehicles, that I can gpsbabel into GPX and upload. > But I'm open to suggestions on that > If you use Merkaartor, don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Sam Wilson
On 2010-10-14 1:35 AM, Richard Weait wrote: Thank you for taking the initiative arrange this with your company. If you get the opportunity to change your data acquisition to one track point per second you'll find the traces much nicer for creating junctions, ramps, exits, fuel stations etc. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Sam Wilson
On 2010-10-14 3:35 AM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:04:20 +0200 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: OK if the streets are perfectly straight and there is nothing around ;-) Perfect for rural and remote Western Australia then. (This is the part of the world that owns the longest railway

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Sam Wilson
On 2010-10-13 5:12 PM, Jonathan Bennett wrote: You'd be releasing the data under CC-BY-SA and ODbL. If you are acting on behalf of the copyright owner, then you don't need to add any further documentation -- simply uploading the data is enough to show you agree to the licences. Great! I might

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 13 October 2010 20:35, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:04:20 +0200 > M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > OK if the streets are perfectly straight and there is nothing around > > ;-) > Perfect for rural and remote Western Australia then. > (This is the part of the world that owns t

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:04:20 +0200 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > OK if the streets are perfectly straight and there is nothing around > ;-) Perfect for rural and remote Western Australia then. (This is the part of the world that owns the longest railway straight in existence)

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Sam Wilson wrote: >  Hi, > > I work for a company in Western Australia that has a dozen or so vehicles > traveling all over regional WA and all equipped with GPS trackers, taking > waypoints at 30s intervals.  I am going to be allowed to upload the data to > OSM.  

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread 80n
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:04 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/10/13 Sam Wilson : > > Hi, > > > > I work for a company in Western Australia that has a dozen or so vehicles > > traveling all over regional WA and all equipped with GPS trackers, taking > > waypoints at 30s intervals. I am goin

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/13 Sam Wilson : >  Hi, > > I work for a company in Western Australia that has a dozen or so vehicles > traveling all over regional WA and all equipped with GPS trackers, taking > waypoints at 30s intervals.  I am going to be allowed to upload the data to > OSM.  I'm just wondering what issu

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Peter Körner
Am 13.10.2010 10:53, schrieb Sam Wilson: On 13/10/10 4:39 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: Would you consider uploading the traces to an independent point, specifying the licence of the traces and giving permission for them to be traced into OSM / other maps (you specify what) and perhaps this could th

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > There was a Russian transport mob who managed to completely > overload the track upload system trying to put up gps traces to > the main database. Separate hosting would keep that from > happening - WA is on the same huge scale as Russia. Different issue. The issue with

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:53:59 +0800 Sam Wilson wrote: > On 13/10/10 4:39 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > > Would you consider uploading the traces to an independent point, > > specifying the licence of the traces and giving permission for them > > to be traced into OSM / other maps (you specify what

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 13/10/2010 08:50, Sam Wilson wrote: 1. We use OSM maps for navigation, and so management are quite able to see the value that could arise from our giving this data to OSM, because it would make the maps better. But there is a bit of a gap between lots-of-GPS-traces and lots-of-well-tagged-

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Sam Wilson
On 13/10/10 4:39 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: Would you consider uploading the traces to an independent point, specifying the licence of the traces and giving permission for them to be traced into OSM / other maps (you specify what) and perhaps this could then be downloaded as a separate layer into

[OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Sam Wilson
Hi, I work for a company in Western Australia that has a dozen or so vehicles traveling all over regional WA and all equipped with GPS trackers, taking waypoints at 30s intervals. I am going to be allowed to upload the data to OSM. I'm just wondering what issues I'm facing... 1. We use OS