Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-11 Thread Andy Robinson
Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] wrote: > Sent: 09 October 2011 21:16 > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap snip > > However, if a bunch of OSM activists want to get sponsorship _outside_ > OSMF to set up a

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Absolutely. This may be a rather controversial opinion, but > would it maybe be a good idea to offer "Qt like licencing" for > use of the OSM tile server? For the record, we simply can't do this with the existing tile servers. AIUI (though I'm no expert), our agreement wi

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-09 Thread Nick Whitelegg
>Please bear in mind that, even if we wanted to offer free tiles to every >commercial app in the world, our hosts would not permit us to do so. Nor is >it OSM's role to give OpenMaps a competitive advantage by providing it with >a free server when (for example) the OffMaps developers offer similar

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-09 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Zsombor Szabó wrote: > About OpenMaps: > OpenMaps is a powerful iOS app based on maps and web services around > OpenStreetMap. To date it was downloaded more than 250.000 times and > as of 2011.09.07 it is the 7th most popular OSM editor. I'm also a happy user of openmaps on iPad. To temporaly s

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Mike Dupont
you can see a large number of tiles being hosted here, http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3ASharedMap&sort=-publicdate John Smith has been working on this, he can tell you more about it. since I am writing to everyone, just want to let you know. we are working on the next edition

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Mike Dupont
We asked for permission to host osm tiles and they gladly gave it ( "internetarchive" , ) There are license restrictions creative commons and public domain you can see the hardware here. http://www.archive.org/web/petabox.php @frederik, I have not looked at the tiles in a while, maybe there is a

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Phil Endecott
Hi Mike, Mike Dupont wrote: Hi, we have experimented with hosting the tiles on archive.org there are no size limits or bandwith limits, http://ia600606.us.archive.org/31/items/SharedMap2/index.html Can you clarify this a bit? Have the archive.org people officially said, "you're welcome to st

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/08/2011 08:19 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: This might solve your distribution issue, but ready rendered tiles to not fall from the sky. My distribution? I am suggesting that OSM use this. Then: "This might solve our distribution issue, but ready rendered tiles do not fall from t

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > On 10/08/2011 07:25 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: > >>The tile server, though, is a rivalrous good. Use of the tile server >>costs OSM resources, and detracts from other users. >> >> it is not any more, we have free hosting for the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/08/2011 07:25 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: The tile server, though, is a rivalrous good. Use of the tile server costs OSM resources, and detracts from other users. it is not any more, we have free hosting for the terabytes. archive.org This might solve your di

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 08.10.2011 16:06, schrieb Matthias Meisser: So we might remove the warnings from the corresponding wiki pages, do we? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Blocked_applications bye Matthias (!i!) I think we should not remove the warnings, but add a note to updated versions that are found to be

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > OSM data is a non-rivalrous good. That is your use does not detract > from anyone else's use. > > The tile server, though, is a rivalrous good. Use of the tile server > costs OSM resources, and detracts from other users. > > it is not any

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Zsombor Szabó wrote: > This way browsing and bulk downloading users can clearly be > identified on the server side and throttled or banned if necessary. It's good that you're making changes, but there's two misapprehensions that need clearing up. Firstly, our sysadmins are unpaid volunteers who

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Stefan de Konink wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Op 08-10-11 14:39, Zsombor Szabó schreef: >> This is our short term solution for the problem, but the long termriv >> solution is clearly a vector based renderer. I previously alluded >

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Mike Dupont
orspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Zsombor Szabó [mailto:zsom...@gmail.com] > Verzonden: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:40 PM > Aan: OSM Talk > Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap > > Dear OSMers, > > we, the developers of OpenMaps, wrote a blog post about

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Matthias Meisser
Thanks for the update Zsombor! Well for all of you that didn't noticed the problem with our servers, you might check out the following discussions: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Blocked_applications http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=194881 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/!i

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 08-10-11 14:39, Zsombor Szabó schreef: > This is our short term solution for the problem, but the long term > solution is clearly a vector based renderer. I previously alluded > that it is coming on my twitter profile. The long term solution is

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
- > > Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest) >  Before printing, think about the environment. > > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Zsombor Szabó [mailto:zsom...@gmail.com] > Verzonden: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:40 PM > Aan: OSM Talk > Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] OpenM

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Talk Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap Dear OSMers, we, the developers of OpenMaps, wrote a blog post about OpenMaps getting blocked by OpenStreetMap Mapnik tile servers: http://blog.izeize.com/2011/10/openmaps-app-blocked-by-openstreetmap.html For convenience I pasted the

[OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Zsombor Szabó
Dear OSMers, we, the developers of OpenMaps, wrote a blog post about OpenMaps getting blocked by OpenStreetMap Mapnik tile servers: http://blog.izeize.com/2011/10/openmaps-app-blocked-by-openstreetmap.html For convenience I pasted the whole text of the blog post below: Earlier this week it came