Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 1:06 PM, john whelan wrote: > JAVA started as a SUN product. It is now an Oracle product. I spent a > number of years working with Oracle on license for their databases. A > number of sales people's statements about their licensing were dubious

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

You are mixing so many different topics and misconceptions that I think you basically don't know what you're talking about. Perhaps you should read up on what is Java first... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Java_implementations

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

sent from a phone > On 22. Apr 2018, at 21:34, Jan Martinec wrote: > > End of Java _8_, not all Java. Java 9 is already out, this is just a version > upgrade. +1, also jdk10 is already out and jdk11 expected in September this year, so by 2020 java8 will be quite old.

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

I think Fredrick's comments have merit. We know a lot about what works so writing code to rewrite it if need be would not be too great an effort. Cheerio John On 22 April 2018 at 16:06, john whelan wrote: > JAVA started as a SUN product. It is now an Oracle product. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

JAVA started as a SUN product. It is now an Oracle product. I spent a number of years working with Oracle on license for their databases. A number of sales people's statements about their licensing were dubious and inconsistent so I'll admit I am slightly bias. Having said that if we look at

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

End of Java _8_, not all Java. Java 9 is already out, this is just a version upgrade. So far, I have used JOSM on Java 6, Java 7, Java 8 and Java 9 - this only means that ancient installations of JOSM will only work with an older version of JOSM. (It's still possible to run JOSM build 10526 on

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

Am 22.04.2018 um 20:26 schrieb john whelan: We have some time to look at alternatives but it might be better not to leave it to the last few days. I suggest that you have a look into the josm-dev mailing list... e.g. look at this discussion:

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html It needs to be translated into English. For example Long Term Support means no new versions per three years. " Basically, free Java 8 updates for commercial customers, such as game developers, will cease in January 2019. After that date

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM? - do not panic

First off, Oracle could kill Oracle Java Runtime Environment, but the API of Java is open and implemented e.g. by OpenJDK (currently also Oracle-maintained, but not as easily killed.). Oracle could quit Java today if it wanted to (whether this is an actual intent or just political posturing w/r/t

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 14:26:13 -0400 john whelan wrote: > Someone who worked at Oracle has mentioned Oracle would like to be > out of JAVA by 2020 and that is the date for individual free licenses > to expire. Source? ___ talk

[OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

Fewer applications are using JAVA and it looks as if Oracle is withdrawing from JAVA. It was originally developed by SUN who were taken over by Oracle. Someone who worked at Oracle has mentioned Oracle would like to be out of JAVA by 2020 and that is the date for individual free licenses to