Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-15 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Allan wrote: > Wait - who are you, and what have you done with RichardF? I'm Fake SteveC. At least that's what people keep telling me. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-15 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Both of these are going to have to wait for the > AS3 rewrite, Wait - who are you, and what have you done with RichardF? Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://list

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-15 Thread Michael Thompson
2009/1/15 Erik Johansson : > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst > wrote: >> >> Michal Migurski wrote: >>> I'm hesitant to blow away the existing guide, but I wonder if it >>> can be moved behind a disambiguation page? Something that >>> lets you understand different levels of invo

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-15 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Michal Migurski wrote: >> I'm hesitant to blow away the existing guide, but I wonder if it >> can be moved behind a disambiguation page? Something that >> lets you understand different levels of involvement: found a >> mistake, need to

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Michal Migurski wrote: > I'm hesitant to blow away the existing guide, but I wonder if it > can be moved behind a disambiguation page? Something that > lets you understand different levels of involvement: found a > mistake, need to add a street, have a spreadsheet of local > amenities, live in

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Michal Migurski
>> I'm looking at replacing MS VEarth imagery in >> http://oakland.crimespotting.org/crimes >>with OSM, and I've been working on how to introduce the idea of >> an editable map to our (non-technical) visitors. OpenStreetBugs >> offers an obvious pathway in, though my experience observin

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Michal Migurski wrote: > I'm looking at replacing MS VEarth imagery in > http://oakland.crimespotting.org/crimes > with OSM, and I've been working on how to introduce the idea of an > editable map to our (non-technical) visitors. OpenStreetBugs offers an > obvious pathway in, though my expe

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Michal Migurski
> Well, one of the reasons is that our beginners' documentation is the > weakest part of the whole caboodle. Put yourself in the position of a > newbie. You're not sure what to do (as Chris Schmidt observed on > #irc, "editing topology is hard") - you may not even realise that the > roads have to l

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread John07
Mike Harris schrieb: > As a relative newbie I still remember my first experiences with both > Potlatch and JOSM. I have no idea whether my own experience is typical but I > did find the learning curve steeper on Potlatch than on JOSM even though the > wikis imply the opposite. I think that Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Phillip Barnett wrote: > I believe Richard did the rectification for Potlatch and claims it to be > better than JOSM's. True for NPE but not for Yahoo - Potlatch just uses the standard Yahoo Flash component, it doesn't do any extra fiddling around (well, other than a tiny tweak to get the copyrig

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Barnett, Phillip
boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ed Loach Sent: 13 January 2009 13:41 To: 'Mike Harris' Cc: 'OSM-Talk' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again Mike wrote: > Also - for what it's worth - I find that I use both Potlatch > a

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Ed Loach
Mike wrote: > Also - for what it's worth - I find that I use both Potlatch > and JOSM but > for different tasks. I use JOSM as my main editor and for doing > bulk work on > new routes. I find Potlatch is better for doing minor tweaks > and also for > Yahoo tracing (even with the JOSM plugins, the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Mike Harris
n Potlatch - or am I just imagining this?!). Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] Sent: 12 January 2009 15:07 To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again Gert Gremmen wrote: > Thank you Thomas, > > The image you pro

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-12 Thread Sebastian Hohmann
Richard Fairhurst schrieb: > So why do people get it wrong? And I'm not doubting that they do. > > Well, one of the reasons is that our beginners' documentation is the > weakest part of the whole caboodle. Put yourself in the position of a > newbie. You're not sure what to do (as Chris Schmidt

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > (There's even a case for having z20 > as super-thin lines because, by definition, if you're editing at z20 > you want precision.) Or super-fat ones, to remind everyone that no matter how carefully you're working, either the imagery or t

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gert Gremmen wrote: > Thank you Thomas, > > The image you provided to prove your solution > was a complete surprise to me and may contribute to a > solution for this everlasting Potlatch Critic. > > You are right, and I am right. > > My screen looks entirely different, due to the missed option > (

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-12 Thread Steven Le Roux
g oil on the waves > > > Gert Gremmen > - > > Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest) > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Thomas Wood [mailto:grand.edgemas...@gmail.com] > Verzonden: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:0

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-12 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/1/12 Gert Gremmen : > Thank you Thomas, > > The image you provided to prove your solution > was a complete surprise to me and may contribute to a > solution for this everlasting Potlatch Critic. > > You are right, and I am right. > > My screen looks entirely different, due to the missed option

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-11 Thread Gert Gremmen
l.com] Verzonden: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:09 PM Aan: Gert Gremmen CC: Talk Openstreetmap Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again 2009/1/11 Gert Gremmen : > OSM fellows and friends, > > > > Sorry for bringing this up again > > We have been discussing Potlatch lately. &

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gert Gremmen wrote: > POTLATCH NEEDS IMPROVEMENT Yeah, well spotted, genius. Where's your fucking patch? Meanwhile - oh look, what's that on my screen? Fuck me if it isn't the fucking Potlatch source. Maybe I'm improving the fucking thing. http://www.systemeD.net/osm/screenshot.png Maybe a fuc

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-11 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/1/11 Gert Gremmen : > OSM fellows and friends, > > > > Sorry for bringing this up again…. > > We have been discussing Potlatch lately. > > > > Take a look at this: > > > > http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/?zoom=18&lat=52.05674&lon=4.33844&layers=B000F > > > > and at this : > > > > http://geo.t

[OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-11 Thread Gert Gremmen
OSM fellows and friends, Sorry for bringing this up again We have been discussing Potlatch lately. Take a look at this: http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/?zoom=18&lat=52.05674&lon=4.33844&layers=B0 00F and at this : http://geo.topf.org/comparison/index.html?mt0=googlehybrid&