Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
It is not that easy to damage relations in JOSM. Sure, you can, but you get blocking warnings: once, when you change the relation indirectly (perhaps breaking it), and another (issued by JOSM's very comprehensive validator) by the time you attempt to upload your changes. Both warnings stop your wor

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I think all three major editors make it too easy to damage relations. And that starting to damage a relation (by a user) is a perfect teaching opportunity. The moment someone deletes part of a boundary relation, is the perfect teaching moment about boundary relations. _

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
Indeed that's a nice feature I've known to be unique to Potlatch. Anyway, I might have been misinformed about Potlatch being deprecated (if it was, I was trying to ask people to hurry), but since it's not, I'm not asking for it either. Instead, the issues I've pointed out (http://forum.openstreetm

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Fernando Trebien wrote: When I cannot use JOSM for any reason, I'm still using P2 to retrieve the history of an object and P1 is the only one I know which is able to find and display deleted ways. Two helpful features for data maintenance. Pieren ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-20 Thread Fernando Trebien
I understand. Well, at least with iD there's a trend towards fixing these problems, since it is actively developed, whereas in Potlatch I'm sure none of the issues will ever be addressed. I've decided to expand on the main issues and ended up writing this: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-14 Thread malenki
On 14.02.2014 16:54, Fernando Trebien wrote: > My main issue is lack of proper support to relations (not displayed > and handled improperly on basic operations, such as when merging and > spliting way members, and not going to be fixed AFAIK). It doesn't help you question but iD has similar pro

[OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-14 Thread Fernando Trebien
Hello everyone, I was wondering when is it that Potlatch will be considered officially deprecated (so, taken out of the main website). I know that the editor has its pros (Flash is sometimes faster than iD's JavaScript, and some users certainly prefer Potlatch's menu organization), and I definitel