Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-11-02 Thread Dave F.
Ian My comment was actually pointing out good mapping techniques. We are a community of mappers - go out map. Please, add data to improve the quality of the database. Dave F. On 02/11/2014 01:56, Ian Dees wrote: On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-11-01 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Like it, but unsure I'd give Round 8 to Steve. Deleting old data is *good* if replaced with more accurate information. Once again: this is a discussion, not a competition between Steve and Simon. There are no rounds to

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-11-01 Thread Dave F.
On 01/11/2014 22:22, Ian Dees wrote: On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com mailto:dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Like it, but unsure I'd give Round 8 to Steve. Deleting old data is *good* if replaced with more accurate information. Once again: this is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-11-01 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 01/11/2014 22:22, Ian Dees wrote: On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Like it, but unsure I'd give Round 8 to Steve. Deleting old data is *good* if replaced with more accurate

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-31 Thread RB
I second that. While it is true that OSM is definitely more that an addressable map, addresses are, indeed, very helpful and even necessary. For various reason, they constitute a weakness in the current project growth and emphasizing the need to survey them / negotiate import with relevant

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-31 Thread Nick Whitelegg
, OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map I second that. While it is true that OSM is definitely more that an addressable map, addresses are, indeed, very helpful and even necessary. For various reason, they constitute a weakness in the current project growth

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-31 Thread Simon Poole
: Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi, OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map I second that. While it is true that OSM is definitely more that an addressable map, addresses are, indeed, very helpful and even necessary. For various reason

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-31 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 31.10.2014 12:56, schrieb Simon Poole: I commented on the better map vision here http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/25975 . I really recomend to read this blog, very clear words. Thanks Simon! And I also advocate to read the newest blog from Simon:

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-31 Thread marekskleciak
+1.. Dnia 31 października 2014 21:44 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de napisał(a): Am 31.10.2014 12:56, schrieb Simon Poole: I commented on the better map vision here http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/25975 .I really recomend to read this blog, very clear words.

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-31 Thread Steve Coast
I think it's sad that someone with the talent and skills that Simon has, spends their precious time on this. It's flattering, and as Nassim Taleb said the difference between love and hate is very very small. But, imagine what Simon could achieve by spending that time and energy on making the

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-31 Thread Ed Loach
Steve wrote: imagine what Simon could achieve by spending that time and energy on making the world better. What, like http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/history or https://help.openstreetmap.org/users/2053/simonpoole/recent/ or https://code.google.com/p/osmeditor4android/source/list

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-31 Thread Stephan Knauss
http://osmfight.neis-one.org/?u1=SteveCu2=SimonPoole SCNR Steve, I know that OSM is your baby. But accept that you did a successful job. It is now time to let it go and grow up by its own way. It is similar to your own children. You wish to protect them forever. But at one time you have to

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-31 Thread Ian Dees
Hi folks.​ Do you think we could stop supporting the back and forth between Simon and Steve by replying to this thread? It's pretty damn childish and we've long since left the topic for the list. Thanks! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-29 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Hi, Steve Coast promised to make the best address map of the world by himself if he will not be elected into the board of the OSM Foundation: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2014-October/002713.html

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-29 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi wrote: With a dedicated database and tools for addresses the route could really be easier and faster and I would not feel ashamed at all while importing addresses from this master address database into OSM later.

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-29 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 29/10/2014, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi wrote: If I don't get elected then I'll continue focusing on address data outside of OSM. It's frankly the easier route but it would be a real shame if OSM isn't the venue to make it happen. The funny/sad part of that quote is that

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-29 Thread David Fawcett
Agreed. Jukka points to ideas that could enhance OpenAddresses, There is some good momentum behind OA already, let's get together and improve that project. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Jukka Rahkonen

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-29 Thread Jason Remillard
Hi, The OpenAddress project is great, but we still need addresses in OSM. It would make sense to write OSM importing (and updating) software that is assumes OpenAddress as an input, rather than the raw files released by official GIS committees. By standardizing on the output of the OpenAddress