Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 01:12, Tirkon wrote: > I do understand, that OSM-people will not be responsible for malicious > use, possibly death of innocent humans caused by them or their work. > But this could be caused also by you, if you buy something and thus > support a person, who will be able to harm

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-07 Thread Tirkon
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes >correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our >data by governmental organisations. What do you thing about setting up >a paragraph that prohibits the use of our data for militar

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Milo van der Linden
Since all military organisations in the world can get their hands on OpenStreetMap data, it rules out the advantage and makes OpenStreetMap data as common to warfare as the soil they walk on... I am looking forward to the first edit-war that will turn out to influence the outcome of a real war.

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
You would be surprised. The US Military base vector data set VMAP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Map) is in places far better than OSM, and in others (think Haiti) OSM is much better. That said, the military & intelligence agencies use this in *conjunction* with other sources of data: imagery

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Dave F.
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes > correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our > data by governmental organisations. What do you thing about setting up > a paragraph that prohibits the use of our data for milit

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Chris Jones
On 04/02/10 15:02, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > 2) Most governments have far better data than what's in OSM. > > When you're a military, things like centimeter accuracy really matter. > OSM isn't anywhere close to that accurate in most places. > You'd hope... but various militaries track records o

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes > correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our > data by governmental organisations. This same issue exists with all Free Software. A "bad gover

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 04/02/2010 14:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes > correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our > data by governmental organisations. What do you thing about setting up > a paragraph that prohibits the use

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 04-02-10 15:49, Martin Koppenhoefer schreef: > AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes > correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our > data by governmental organisations. What do you thing about setting up > a paragraph that prohibits the use