Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-03-22 09:47, Janko Mihelić wrote: 2012/3/21 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com [2] Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl [1] wrote: So why would it be incorrect to map these as pedestrian? The fact that motorvehicles don't use them has nothing to do with it. Maarten Yes, the definition

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/22 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl It's difficult to make a precise definition of course. Some ideas of mine: No hard surface: footpath No houses next to it: footpath High use: pedestrian Urban area: pedestrian The wide expanse is in the sense of a (town) square or a pedestrian area.

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-03-22 10:11, Janko Mihelić wrote: 2012/3/22 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl [1] It's difficult to make a precise definition of course. Some ideas of mine: No hard surface: footpath No houses next to it: footpath High use: pedestrian Urban area: pedestrian The wide expanse is in the sense

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/22 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl In Barcelona I encountered this street: http://maps.google.nl/maps?**ll=41.380584,2.181439spn=0.** 000779,0.001894t=mz=19**layer=ccbll=41.380584,2.**

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/22/2012 4:47 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: Ok, so whats the difference between a pedestrian highway and a footpath then? I'm sure everyone has different criteria, but I generally use footway if it's not a separate right-of-way (meaning it's either a path in a larger property such as a park,

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: I agree. I would not use that as as single guideline to use highway=footway. In Barcelona I encountered this street:

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/22 Pieren pier...@gmail.com But this discussion might continue on the tagging mailing list. I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of the list. Going there right now. Janko ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Gilles Bassière
Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 à 10:44 +0100, Janko Mihelić a écrit : 2012/3/22 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl In Barcelona I encountered this street:

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2012-03-21 at 17:35:28 +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as something that can't be a footpath. For some reason it insults their vision of those ways. That's why they tag them as pedestrian highways although no cars ever went through

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/23 Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com On 2012-03-21 at 17:35:28 +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: Some of those look like potential pedestrian to me: the main criterion I use is not whether cars have ever used the way but whether cars could use them if they were legally allowed

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Federico Cozzi
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:14 PM, sabas88 saba...@gmail.com wrote: ways. That's why they tag them as pedestrian highways although no cars ever went through them E perché una strada è pedonale solo se ha avuto traffico veicolare nella sua storia? Dal wiki di highway=pedestrian: For town centres

[OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as something that can't be a footpath. For some reason it insults their vision of those ways. That's why they tag them as pedestrian highways although no cars ever went through them (well, maybe some small delivery vehicles). Another

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread SomeoneElse
Janko Mihelic' wrote: Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as something that can't be a footpath. Venice: map http://osm.org/go/0IDhdnwp - photo http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/28533234.jpg San Giminagno:map http://osm.org/go/xXvzjCybS-- photo

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread Maarten Deen
On 21-3-2012 17:35, Janko Mihelić wrote: Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as something that can't be a footpath. For some reason it insults their vision of those ways. That's why they tag them as pedestrian highways although no cars ever went through them (well,

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 21-3-2012 17:35, Janko Mihelić wrote: Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as something that can't be a footpath. For some reason it insults their vision of those ways. That's why they tag them as pedestrian highways

[Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread sabas88
Questa email riesuma quel discorso di un paio di mesi fa. Come si era risolta la situazione a venezia? Stefano -- Forwarded message -- From: Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com Date: 2012/3/21 Subject: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns. To: Talk Openstreetmap t

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread Andrea Musuruane
, sabas88 saba...@gmail.com wrote: Questa email riesuma quel discorso di un paio di mesi fa. Come si era risolta la situazione a venezia? Stefano -- Forwarded message -- From: Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com Date: 2012/3/21 Subject: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar