Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-07 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Sonntag 07 Dezember 2008 schrieb Chris Browet: > It doesn't allow to rip their tiles, "converted/scales/cropped" them and > re-serve the modified ones. Ok, but that's exactly what the josm plugin also does. So i assume it's ok to use such a server internally without providing them to the pu

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-07 Thread Chris Browet
> > > > > Yahoos license seem to allow this > > Tell me more? > I've been told that the yahoo license permits derivative works which also > is the reason why potlatch and josm are making use of this. Wouldn't a > server distrubuting slightly converted/scales/cropped images not also > provide just d

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-07 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Nic Roets wrote: > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> I've been told that the yahoo license permits derivative works which also >> is the reason why potlatch and josm are making use of this. Wouldn't a >> server distrubuting slightly converted/scal

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > I wonder why the ywms plugin is a plugin at all as it sounds like it's exaclty > the type of server i am asking for. It isn't anything near WMS compliant though. > I've been told that the yahoo license permits derivative works Not in this breadth, no. Bye Fre

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Samstag 06 Dezember 2008 schrieb Nic Roets: > But Y! is under no obligation to serve anyone with images. And who > knows exactly what their business plan is and what they regard as > value creation for their shareholders. So if you go ahead with this, > make it very clear that Y! is the sou

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been told that the yahoo license permits derivative works which also > is the reason why potlatch and josm are making use of this. Wouldn't a > server distrubuting slightly converted/scales/cropped images not als

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Donnerstag 04 Dezember 2008 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > None that I'm aware of. We're going through a lot of pain with JOSM to > display Yahoo background images, and we wouldn't do that if there was a WMS. I wonder why the ywms plugin is a plugin at all as it sounds like it's exaclty the type

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Niccolo Rigacci wrote: > Microsoft does not allow to use VirtualEarth for OpenStreetMap. > This is why I don't use my VirtualEarth-WMS proxy. > > But if we can use the same proxy on Yahoo API, it can be very > interesting. Still it would violate Yahoo's terms of use and endanger the whole Y

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:22:33AM +0100, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Viernes, 5 de Diciembre de 2008, Niccolo Rigacci escribió: > > How much different is Yahoo imagery protocol from Microsoft > > VirtualEarth [1] one? > > It's not about the protocol or the API, it's about the license. > > Th

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Chris Browet
> > The Yahoo guys are happy with OSM using their imagery, but we just don't > know > about microsoft. > AFAIK, even if Yahoo! tolerates that OSM uses their satellite imagery, they still insist we use their own AJAX API to do so. As Frederik pointed out for JOSM, it is a PITA for Merkaartor to sho

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-05 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 5 de Diciembre de 2008, Niccolo Rigacci escribió: > How much different is Yahoo imagery protocol from Microsoft > VirtualEarth [1] one? It's not about the protocol or the API, it's about the license. The Yahoo guys are happy with OSM using their imagery, but we just don't know about

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-05 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 09:13:59PM +0100, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > > is there a stand-alone yahoo WMS server? Yahoos license seem to allow this > and some users of my osm2go ask for yahoo images. Going through a > wms server would be the easiest and cleanest solution i think. How much diffe

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-05 Thread Aun Johnsen
>Message: 5 >Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 >From: "Till Harbaum / Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server? >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii&qu

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > is there a stand-alone yahoo WMS server? None that I'm aware of. We're going through a lot of pain with JOSM to display Yahoo background images, and we wouldn't do that if there was a WMS. > Yahoos license seem to allow this Tell me more? Bye Frederik -- Fr

[OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-04 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, is there a stand-alone yahoo WMS server? Yahoos license seem to allow this and some users of my osm2go ask for yahoo images. Going through a wms server would be the easiest and cleanest solution i think. Thanks, Till ___ talk mailing list talk@o