Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-18 Thread Yann Coupin
Of course it costs money! And Yahoo! is a for profit company, not a charity. So for those wondering why Croatia has such crappy coverage, there's your answer. As for the cause, it's simple : either they haven't covered their initial investment yet, or they don't expect to make more money by

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-18 Thread Igor Brejc
Don't worry, the situation for Slovenia is similar... Only the capital Ljubljana is covered with high-res imagery, the rest (including Maribor, the town I live in - 150.000 residents) is low-res. And it has been so for at least a couple of years. My guess is that imagery costs money, and Yahoo is

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-18 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Colin Marquardt wrote: > 2009/5/17 Valent Turkovic : >> That is why we are dependent on Yahoo to provide maps and that is why >> some of them are looking at google maps even if they shouldn't :( > > That sounds pretty scary. How about... just *going* there? That w

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-17 Thread Russ Nelson
On May 17, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > They have a price list on their pages, giving away maps is out of them Don't assume that. In economics, particularly the field of Price Theory, there's this thing called Price Differentiation. That's where a seller will charge one buye

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-17 Thread Colin Marquardt
2009/5/17 Valent Turkovic : > That is why we are dependent on Yahoo to provide maps and that is why > some of them are looking at google maps even if they shouldn't :( That sounds pretty scary. How about... just *going* there? That was the idea all along. (For quite some months I was the only guy

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-17 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > On May 16, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > >> El Sábado, 16 de Mayo de 2009, Valent Turkovic escribió: >>> >>> We really need higher resolution images in order to make better >>> openstreetmaps for Croatia. >> >> I encourage yo

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-17 Thread openstreetmap-talk
In article <64b14b300905161628m79fae8bdxfc2844b7e24e...@mail.gmail.com> valent.turko...@gmail.com writes: >Any special reason why Yahoo would pay for to get areal photography >for small towns and villages in Hungary and not for other countries? My speculation is they have a contract to get copies

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread Russ Nelson
On May 16, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Sábado, 16 de Mayo de 2009, Valent Turkovic escribió: >> >> We really need higher resolution images in order to make better >> openstreetmaps for Croatia. > > I encourage you to talk with Croatia's "State Geodetic Administration" > (www

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Domingo, 17 de Mayo de 2009, Valent Turkovic escribió: > They have money to do it, I guess money is no problem for a company like > Yahoo. Am I wrong? Money is *always* a problem for *any* company. -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega Time is a great healer. Unless i

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:50 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > 2009/5/17 Valent Turkovic : >> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:19 PM, andrzej zaborowski >> wrote: >>> 2009/5/16 Valent Turkovic : I'm living in Osijek in eastern part of Croatia, a town with approximately 100,000 people. And if yo

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/5/17 Valent Turkovic : > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:19 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: >> 2009/5/16 Valent Turkovic : >>> I'm living in Osijek in eastern part of Croatia, a town with >>> approximately 100,000 people. And if you look Osijek on Yahoo >>> satellite view you will see it really bad l

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:19 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > 2009/5/16 Valent Turkovic : >> I'm living in Osijek in eastern part of Croatia, a town with >> approximately 100,000 people. And if you look Osijek on Yahoo >> satellite view you will see it really bad low resolution: >> http://maps.yaho

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:19 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > 2009/5/16 Valent Turkovic : >> I'm living in Osijek in eastern part of Croatia, a town with >> approximately 100,000 people. And if you look Osijek on Yahoo >> satellite view you will see it really bad low resolution: >> http://maps.yaho

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/5/16 Valent Turkovic : > I'm living in Osijek in eastern part of Croatia, a town with > approximately 100,000 people. And if you look Osijek on Yahoo > satellite view you will see it really bad low resolution: > http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=s&lat=45.551444&lon=18.69127&zoom=14 > > I found only t

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 16 de Mayo de 2009, Valent Turkovic escribió: > My reasoning was that the images are already available to yahoo but > that they don't enable it for whole planet, and that only urban areas > have enabled high-resolution images. How do you come to the conclusion that Y! has already aerial

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread Valent Turkovic
2009/5/16 Iván Sánchez Ortega : > El Sábado, 16 de Mayo de 2009, Valent Turkovic escribió: >> So how to persuade Yahoo to refresh satellite images of Croatia in >> high resolution? > > Money. Piles and piles of money. > >> We really need higher resolution images in order to make better >> openstree

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 16 de Mayo de 2009, Valent Turkovic escribió: > So how to persuade Yahoo to refresh satellite images of Croatia in > high resolution? Money. Piles and piles of money. > We really need higher resolution images in order to make better > openstreetmaps for Croatia. I encourage you to tal

[OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, I'm living in Osijek in eastern part of Croatia, a town with approximately 100,000 people. And if you look Osijek on Yahoo satellite view you will see it really bad low resolution: http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=s&lat=45.551444&lon=18.69127&zoom=14 I found only two towns in Croatia that have a hig