Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/2/24 Gora Mohanty : >> impossible to get a fix.   I was surprised that I managed to get >> a fix in a jet aircraft a few months ago - I would have expected >> this to be a good shield too. > [...] > > You were probably sitting in a window seat, right? Getting a fix > from a window seat is usua

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-24 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:29:10 + Graham Jones wrote: > You are both right. RF absorption is a combination of amount of > material and its properties. I think the issue with trains is > limited to newer ones with special windows (I think they are > conductive - some cars have them too). The

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-19 Thread Graham Jones
You are both right. RF absorption is a combination of amount of material and its properties. I think the issue with trains is limited to newer ones with special windows (I think they are conductive - some cars have them too). The combination of shielding from the roof and windows makes it pract

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hello everyone, On Mar 16 Feb 2010, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: > No it ain't correct. > Satellite signals are blocked by conductive materials > such as metals, and to a limited extend by materials > containing humidity (= limited conductivity) such as leaves > and possibly

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread Liz
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Dave F. wrote: > > It has little to do with the material it's made of, it's all about how > > much mass an object has, the more mass the more it will absorb RF. > > Is this correct? > > I assumed the reason I had trouble getting reception on board trains > because of what th

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Dave F. Verzonden: dinsdag 16 februari 2010 18:46 Aan: John Smith CC: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation John Smith wrote: > On 17 February

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 16 Feb 2010, at 9:46 , Dave F. wrote: > John Smith wrote: >> On 17 February 2010 01:40, John F. Eldredge wrote: >> >>> Frequently you can't get a position fix at all, if the building has much >>> metal in its structure. I can't get a position fix from inside my house >>> unless I am near

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread Dave F.
John Smith wrote: > On 17 February 2010 01:40, John F. Eldredge wrote: > >> Frequently you can't get a position fix at all, if the building has much >> metal in its structure. I can't get a position fix from inside my house >> unless I am near a south-facing window, probably due to a metalli

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 February 2010 01:40, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Frequently you can't get a position fix at all, if the building has much > metal in its structure. I can't get a position fix from inside my house > unless I am near a south-facing window, probably due to a metallic-foil vapor > barrier in t

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving ANDwalking navigation

2010-02-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
Frequently you can't get a position fix at all, if the building has much metal in its structure. I can't get a position fix from inside my house unless I am near a south-facing window, probably due to a metallic-foil vapor barrier in the attic. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Rese