Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/03/2015 10:26 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > I think requiring mapping is in fact a poor idea: that impinges on > issues of academic freedom. Well we wouldn't take away their freedom to do research; we just wouldn't participate in research carried out by people who are not willing to spend

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-03 Thread gianfranco gliozzo
On 3 March 2015 at 08:51, Ed Loach wrote: > Gianfranco asked: > > > What if we ask not only to publish as open access the resulting work but > also to give back to the community all raw material? > > Is this another survey? > > Was my question above? > > Ed > > +1 we have now a new survey with tw

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-03 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi Gianfranco, 2015-03-03 8:55 GMT+01:00 gianfranco gliozzo : > What if we ask not only to publish as open access the resulting work but > also to give back to the community all raw material? > We can create a section of the wiki to support researchers with a list of > all old publications and sur

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > I agree that some well defined process which might include an oversight > rule for the OSMF would be good. Muki's code which Richard Weait has > linked to is excellent (requiring, among other things, that the > researcher does some mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-03 Thread Ed Loach
Gianfranco asked: > What if we ask not only to publish as open access the resulting work but also > to give back to the community all raw material? Is this another survey? Was my question above? Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-02 Thread gianfranco gliozzo
Hi, What if we ask not only to publish as open access the resulting work but also to give back to the community all raw material? We can create a section of the wiki to support researchers with a list of all old publications and surveys. Once they got involved in OSM we can unlock all previous sur

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/03/15 07:43, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > +1 for process /and/ a limit (e.g. 6 per year). > > An osm community process could also help improve the survey questions: > often the ones out the gate have horrid flaws. Yes, too often researchers are unwilling to engage with their "subject" direc

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-02 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Tom MacWright wrote: > > Surveys can be annoying. Maybe we want to have a protocol for them, > instead of implicitly allowing them as we currently do > Let's figure that out instead of joking about ruining some PhD candidate's > research. > +1 for process *and* a

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-02 Thread Tom MacWright
It's fun to be flippant amongst ourselves, where our sense of sarcasm is precisely tuned. But this screed isn't the message we should send to the outside world, to a person wondering what's up with the OpenStreetMap community. Surveys can be annoying. Maybe we want to have a protocol for them, in

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-02 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi, 2015-03-03 0:38 GMT+01:00 Richard Weait : > I'm no fan researchers sending messages to OpenStreetMap users via the > messaging system. I consider them an intrusion. And I've complained > about them here, before. There is another one making the rounds. > Seems like there are more of these ev

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > I'm no fan researchers sending messages to OpenStreetMap users via the > messaging system. I consider them an intrusion. And I've complained > about them here, before. There is another one making the rounds. > Seems like there are more of

[OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-02 Thread Richard Weait
I'm no fan researchers sending messages to OpenStreetMap users via the messaging system. I consider them an intrusion. And I've complained about them here, before. There is another one making the rounds. Seems like there are more of these every time I turn around. I'd like to recommend that you