Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-16 Thread Russ Nelson
Liz writes: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Russ Nelson wrote: > > > simple example > > > I tagged shop=lawyer > > > On this list someone said that they didn't think that lawyer belonged in > > shop > but office=legal. > > > > I saw that. Simply because someone else offered a different idea > >

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-16 Thread Liz
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Russ Nelson wrote: > > simple example > > I tagged shop=lawyer > > On this list someone said that they didn't think that lawyer belonged in > shop > but office=legal. > > I saw that. Simply because someone else offered a different idea > doesn't make your idea "not good".

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-15 Thread Russ Nelson
Pieren writes: > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > Why wait?  Tag boldly and document what you did in the wiki. > > No, no and no. If you are unsure or unhappy with existing tags, then > document, suggest and discuss before putting crap in OSM ! Why? If it's docum

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-15 Thread Russ Nelson
Liz writes: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Russ Nelson wrote: > > > or a simple reason why your tag is not good. > > > > Could you list some simple reasons, please? I don't understand what > > you mean by "not good". > simple example > I tagged shop=lawyer > On this list someone said that they

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-15 Thread John Smith
2009/10/16 Russ Nelson : > Liz writes: >  > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote: >  > > Before you propose a tag, you should be using it. >  > >  > Why? > > To show people how you're using it.  http://osm.org/ Just because you use something, doesn't mean you picked the right combination

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-15 Thread Liz
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Russ Nelson wrote: > > or a simple reason why your tag is not good. > > Could you list some simple reasons, please? I don't understand what > you mean by "not good". simple example I tagged shop=lawyer On this list someone said that they didn't think that lawyer belonged in

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-15 Thread Russ Nelson
Liz writes: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > Before you propose a tag, you should be using it. > > Why? To show people how you're using it. http://osm.org/ > Doesn't it make sense to ask around before using something - > someone may come up with a good example they are

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-15 Thread Russ Nelson
Liz writes: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Russ Nelson wrote: > > Map it, tag it, and document it. Worry less about making a misteak, > > and map more. > could we make "research other tags in similar use" be part of this list > and make the search process easier? This google search has always worke

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-15 Thread Liz
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Russ Nelson wrote: > Map it, tag it, and document it. Worry less about making a misteak, > and map more. could we make "research other tags in similar use" be part of this list and make the search process easier? ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-14 Thread Russ Nelson
Dave F. writes: > The "just go ahead & do it" philosophy that some advocate just puts > errors into OSM that may not get fully removed, especially if they've > been around for a while & have been copied by others. Please go back to my proposed steps. What "errors" do you see defined there?

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/14 Gilles Corlobé : >> Joseph > In my opinion, the tag "landuse=military" should only be used for specificly > military activities, like those discribed in the wiki. > Some of you have suggested to create 2 areas, covering the same place. I > don't think this is correct. One of you said tha

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread John Smith
2009/10/14 Gilles Corlobé : > You're right : If the area is covered by a forest (or a lake, or whatever), > it should appear like this on the map. What would a user think if he finds a > forest (even if it's in a military area) that is not on the map? > And we should remerber that all users are not

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Gilles Corlobé
> -Message d'origine- > De : John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com] > Envoyé : mercredi 14 octobre 2009 06:55 > À : Gilles Corlobé > Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org > Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal > - RFC - (boundary=military) > > 20

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread John Smith
2009/10/14 Gilles Corlobé : > In my opinion, the tag "landuse=military" should only be used for specificly > military activities, like those discribed in the wiki. > Some of you have suggested to create 2 areas, covering the same place. I > don't think this is correct. One of you said that's done e

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Gilles Corlobé
> -Message d'origine- > De : Joseph Reeves [mailto:iknowjos...@gmail.com] > Envoyé : mercredi 14 octobre 2009 00:07 > À : Morten Kjeldgaard > Cc : Gilles Corlobé; talk@openstreetmap.org > Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal > - RFC - (boundary=milit

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread John Smith
2009/10/14 Dave F. : > Pieren wrote: >> 2009/10/13 Gilles Corlobé : >> >>> I didn't know I didn't have to wait the approval. >>> It's now done : http://osm.org/go/xXEahwWz-- >>> >> >> Gilles, your approach was the correct one. Don't follow those stupid >> advices from guys how want the chaos in OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Dave F.
Pieren wrote: > 2009/10/13 Gilles Corlobé : > >> I didn't know I didn't have to wait the approval. >> It's now done : http://osm.org/go/xXEahwWz-- >> > > Gilles, your approach was the correct one. Don't follow those stupid > advices from guys how want the chaos in OSM. Making proposals and

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Joseph Reeves
> To be honest I don't see the point. You should use the already > existing landuse=military. School, parking lot, etc. that you > mentioned should be rendered on top of that, like landuse=residential. > Using "landuse" also avoids certain ambiguities like: which side of > the boundary is the milit

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Dave F.
Shaun McDonald wrote: > > On 13 Oct 2009, at 16:35, Gilles Corlobé wrote: > >>> -Message d'origine- >>> De : Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com] >>> Envoyé : mardi 13 octobre 2009 16:38 >>> À : Gilles Corlobé >>> Cc : talk@ope

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/13 Pieren : > 2009/10/13 Gilles Corlobé : >> I didn't know I didn't have to wait the approval. >> It's now done : http://osm.org/go/xXEahwWz-- > > Gilles, your approach was the correct one. Don't follow those stupid > advices from guys how want the chaos in OSM. Making proposals and > havin

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Liz
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Before you propose a tag, you should be using it. > Why? Doesn't it make sense to ask around before using something - someone may come up with a good example they are already using, or a simple reason why your tag is not good.

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
On 13/10/2009, at 10.14, Gilles Corlobé wrote: > Hello everybody, > I propose to add a tag "boundary=military" : the problem is that, > with the existing tags, it's almost impossible to mark correctly > lots of data, like (non limitative list) forest, scholl, parking > lot, … > Rather than

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread John Smith
2009/10/14 Pieren : > 2009/10/13 Gilles Corlobé : >> I didn't know I didn't have to wait the approval. >> It's now done : http://osm.org/go/xXEahwWz-- > > Gilles, your approach was the correct one. Don't follow those stupid > advices from guys how want the chaos in OSM. Making proposals and > havin

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Pieren
2009/10/13 Gilles Corlobé : > I didn't know I didn't have to wait the approval. > It's now done : http://osm.org/go/xXEahwWz-- Gilles, your approach was the correct one. Don't follow those stupid advices from guys how want the chaos in OSM. Making proposals and having discussions will show you if

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > Why wait?  Tag boldly and document what you did in the wiki. > No, no and no. If you are unsure or unhappy with existing tags, then document, suggest and discuss before putting crap in OSM ! Pieren ___

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Gilles Corlobé
> -Message d'origine- > De : talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- > boun...@openstreetmap.org] De la part de Russ Nelson > Envoyé : mardi 13 octobre 2009 17:54 > À : talk@openstreetmap.org > Objet : **SPAM ENGLISH BODY** Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Propo

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Russ Nelson
Gilles Corlobé writes: > This tag is not currently used. But it could be very usefull here : > http://osm.org/go/xXEahwWz-- Why wait? Tag boldly and document what you did in the wiki. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd.

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Gilles Corlobé
> -Message d'origine- > De : Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk] > Envoyé : mardi 13 octobre 2009 17:46 > À : Gilles Corlobé > Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org > Objet : **SPAM ENGLISH BODY** Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal > - RFC - (boundary=m

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 13 Oct 2009, at 16:35, Gilles Corlobé wrote: -Message d'origine- De : Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com] Envoyé : mardi 13 octobre 2009 16:38 À : Gilles Corlobé Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military) G

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Gilles Corlobé
> -Message d'origine- > De : Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com] > Envoyé : mardi 13 octobre 2009 16:38 > À : Gilles Corlobé > Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org > Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal > - RFC - (boundary=military) > > Gilles Corlo

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Thread Russ Nelson
Gilles Corlobé writes: > I propose to add a tag "boundary=military" Where is this tag currently being used? Please point to several examples so we can see what you mean. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-323-1