Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-07 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Nic Roets wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been told that the yahoo license permits derivative works which also is the reason why potlatch and josm are making use of this. Wouldn't a server distrubuting slightly

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-07 Thread Chris Browet
Yahoos license seem to allow this Tell me more? I've been told that the yahoo license permits derivative works which also is the reason why potlatch and josm are making use of this. Wouldn't a server distrubuting slightly converted/scales/cropped images not also provide just derivative

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-07 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Sonntag 07 Dezember 2008 schrieb Chris Browet: It doesn't allow to rip their tiles, converted/scales/cropped them and re-serve the modified ones. Ok, but that's exactly what the josm plugin also does. So i assume it's ok to use such a server internally without providing them to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Chris Browet
The Yahoo guys are happy with OSM using their imagery, but we just don't know about microsoft. AFAIK, even if Yahoo! tolerates that OSM uses their satellite imagery, they still insist we use their own AJAX API to do so. As Frederik pointed out for JOSM, it is a PITA for Merkaartor to show

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:22:33AM +0100, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Viernes, 5 de Diciembre de 2008, Niccolo Rigacci escribió: How much different is Yahoo imagery protocol from Microsoft VirtualEarth [1] one? It's not about the protocol or the API, it's about the license. The Yahoo

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Niccolo Rigacci wrote: Microsoft does not allow to use VirtualEarth for OpenStreetMap. This is why I don't use my VirtualEarth-WMS proxy. But if we can use the same proxy on Yahoo API, it can be very interesting. Still it would violate Yahoo's terms of use and endanger the whole Yahoo

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Donnerstag 04 Dezember 2008 schrieb Frederik Ramm: None that I'm aware of. We're going through a lot of pain with JOSM to display Yahoo background images, and we wouldn't do that if there was a WMS. I wonder why the ywms plugin is a plugin at all as it sounds like it's exaclty the type

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been told that the yahoo license permits derivative works which also is the reason why potlatch and josm are making use of this. Wouldn't a server distrubuting slightly converted/scales/cropped images not also

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: I wonder why the ywms plugin is a plugin at all as it sounds like it's exaclty the type of server i am asking for. It isn't anything near WMS compliant though. I've been told that the yahoo license permits derivative works Not in this breadth, no. Bye

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-05 Thread Aun Johnsen
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 From: Till Harbaum / Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server? To: talk@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, is there a stand-alone yahoo WMS server? Yahoos license seem

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-05 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 09:13:59PM +0100, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: is there a stand-alone yahoo WMS server? Yahoos license seem to allow this and some users of my osm2go ask for yahoo images. Going through a wms server would be the easiest and cleanest solution i think. How much

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-05 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 5 de Diciembre de 2008, Niccolo Rigacci escribió: How much different is Yahoo imagery protocol from Microsoft VirtualEarth [1] one? It's not about the protocol or the API, it's about the license. The Yahoo guys are happy with OSM using their imagery, but we just don't know about

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: is there a stand-alone yahoo WMS server? None that I'm aware of. We're going through a lot of pain with JOSM to display Yahoo background images, and we wouldn't do that if there was a WMS. Yahoos license seem to allow this Tell me more? Bye Frederik --