[talk-ph] Presenting about Wikimedia and OpenStreetMap at Wikimania 2014
Hi everyone, Over two weeks ago, I had the amazing opportunity to attend Wikimania 2014 in London. Wikimania is the annual conference for the Wikimedia movement, which includes the Wikipedia project. Coincidentally, the conference occurred on the same weekend as the 10th anniversary of OpenStreetMap. As my way of celebrating the anniversary, I gave a presentation about the collaborations between OpenStreetMap and the Wikimedia projects at the conference. You can read more on my blog: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/posts/wikimedia_osm_wikimania_2014 Presentation slides: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_and_OpenStreetMap_%28Wikimania_2014_presentation%29.pdf ~Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk-be] 8 years of OSM work
What 8 years of OSM volunteering achieved: http://osmz.ru/osm2006.html#6/51.276/2.450 Picked up from the general mailing list. Glenn -- Everything is going to be 200 OK. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk] Internet Archive - OSM
If anyone wants to go back in time to see what osm use to look like. Here you go. https://web.archive.org/web/20120201004351/http://www.openstreetmap.org/ *Regards,* *Hans* *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 * ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Early History of OSM
Frederik Ramm wrote: I happen to have a number of really old PostgreSQL databases lying around and I tried to quickly expose them to anyone who would like to have a go at rendering old maps. Caveat: These *only* cover the non US part of the planet (the databases were created for animation purposes and at the time, US data was plentiful but relatively static and therefore useless for animations). Thanks, here is the map for August 2006: http://osmz.ru/osm2006.html#6/53.462/5.087 No point in comparing it to the modern one, I guess. IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated
For the Ebola Activation, we have mapped a zone in priority for MSF in Monrovia. But a new mapper decides to eliminate buildings and roads. A lot of deletion so far. We are trying to revert for Monrovia. But there are other deletions around the world. Could somebody take care of contacting this contributor. And probably some action will have to be taken from the DWG. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Maizenarockz user since may 8, changeset in Monrovia where he simply decides to delete. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24961189 Deleting sites without useful information for users Pierre ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated
On 25/08/2014 14:01, Pierre Béland wrote: Could somebody take care of contacting this contributor. I'd have thought that in the first instance you were best placed to do this, since you know what you mapped and why, and you can ask why things were deleted? Unless you know what their languages is and that you don't speak it (and they don't speak yours)? Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated
Pierre, As the DWG person who is already working on this case, we have said that we are investigating and will take action after our investigation is complete. I will not discuss that investigation on this public forum, but you knew this and decided to send this letter to talk despite this. I am very saddened by this. I'm concerned that in response to your mail, there will be a lot of people harassing this newbie (whether or not his actions in this matter were correct). This is not a positive response, so please, instead, let the DWG continue its process. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Pierre: I just sent him/her a message: - -- Deleting data from the OSM database Maizenarockz 25 de Agosto de 2014 ás 13:43 Hi: We have seen that you are deleting information from the OSM database without any apparent reason. All information is useful, contrary to what you put in the comments. Your deletions are being specially harmful for the ongoing efforts in controlling the ebola outbreak in West Africa. Before we report this to the OpenStreetMap Data Working Group (OSM DWG), could you please tell us why are you doing that? Some of your changesets have been already reverted, but we surely can't keep loosing time reverting this mess. Regards, Rafael Ávila Coya. - --- I will wait let's say 1 day until s/he answers. In the mean time, I will try to see what s/he is doing. Cheers, Rafael. On 25/08/14 21:01, Pierre Béland wrote: For the Ebola Activation, we have mapped a zone in priority for MSF in Monrovia. But a new mapper decides to eliminate buildings and roads. A lot of deletion so far. We are trying to revert for Monrovia. But there are other deletions around the world. Could somebody take care of contacting this contributor. And probably some action will have to be taken from the DWG. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Maizenarockz user since may 8, changeset in Monrovia where he simply decides to delete. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24961189 Deleting sites without useful information for users Pierre ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk - -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya - Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT+0B/AAoJEB3niTly2pPQW38P/jrVQH5avTINU8iLEVuJdK20 WoiER4wJTuFRIhnjmJsliMjAMlOeAqSOSoc6qAl8ueOVgeURcACPGcYoTAKWHdmv +ky8B+hF73Ox0wzl0U7sygU5hDHooC6Tzs7XyI+14P1JNVm8/HS3ZwyRl4f72cAR p4gtYVgsCCXlFH05Xej5jtVw+iMyPfdW/RV2HTTQB2tisqSl41HkpI2sZvAXJw7J T6TV135PYRSHWceRBZF1v3QtseHZruFsliUiEt1tClOFkktzWzxiYA9B9dZHQ3Pr XOidWcfHux8pwj8A85q5ntqBaMzqFSalEqaEx3yVCx58cc3N/oGQT/6RR/d50tFN pPlN0OwfBtzQif6I829VKvVCXT7mLuY+RrHX6Hrd7qI+Tuo3HwHaDu7WEVv+KSe8 /WMVlCCKN8J6WBLspSNHNsl9B4FZ13M6iSP8Bu4N4GUCGvXBGIRWPPl58iinL3EZ srXoaH7HA6B++D17lyhPeGosQ6HkuyIMeLQsf+2/gU83b3o28N0ppPm8GiOfVNl6 WsWJ63um1Ju5cN2COoX6mLTAg7CRXDuTAL8/yKKWU3DzKxIOafswX2eeqiZDI7B/ LMQiARB5VjxGsuDmUi+GJ0PumNM4p8MZO9UVHKzIKw5iFz1+qutys7P8hQw6KIT9 4Ql6yzTWeT8j28fjOjzT =+Ijo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Serge: I don't see why people can't speak out their concerns about a user that is doing some suspicious edits, really. In case you think so, I don't feel guilty to have sent a message to this user at the request of Pierre Béland. It's not harmful in my opinion, whether s/he did it on purpose or not. I will let you go on with the research though. Thanks for that. Cheers, Rafael. On 25/08/14 21:40, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Pierre, As the DWG person who is already working on this case, we have said that we are investigating and will take action after our investigation is complete. I will not discuss that investigation on this public forum, but you knew this and decided to send this letter to talk despite this. I am very saddened by this. I'm concerned that in response to your mail, there will be a lot of people harassing this newbie (whether or not his actions in this matter were correct). This is not a positive response, so please, instead, let the DWG continue its process. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk - -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya - Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT+0IhAAoJEB3niTly2pPQCHoQAI/z8KZdIpvL9M70Dm77WLK9 NGePbWTs1o7QrbJZSKq/0Wc5s7H1MHD0KXZ9OMw4rNU7t+Clddh5Fuuqd2+hnwi0 PJyrFBP2QvyVIbEgY3dxM/ypSJWUeEdED9xgrQMux5vdDn+PRE2JS9MbmKHi/Hei jHLfWvMEh0JYiERLr9WXGabv0D2j/nlyyJRVjz3TLsm0NroO3xNso/FR0ExthAYk JxCu1grnryl2K//d4JAIivN2AshqaArUjZ6Q/gbAs+Zd5YgUpiCbp+3np+7/Mrh8 PUmrPUluruq8zEwQYuYnoWpPd1cozco1dyjsQkOR31L4vjLmDFoApt48XqCwC53m 6O+KUDvSzvKQotkNZedVHMLzoN4tnyIrBV947euNxkwLeFRkh8q5han7F4B0yHsl DCMNz/u5/HZ3Q/dtOPQpRTzKxZbKE7zA0/gqypNWWIvn02cLFXd/L5q2AbRM7NHg COa9FtFKGWNsVYX8KuO0YmRazX/KKPkaKerc5uS4GBKQD+ULdcFdWgT72+EIxPWV 3mvNtTov9B/KUqIT4hXrJaiSPLT62ZQ0ebEP49/1PyXKZt5T9wnCwxWjH223vmfp riz02axGi08cOQ4zjN936726f25HnNusefTYpo3XHuaX7pKnLMo2ov9mcfGMywTM AdSJnKMX3QYlwbyO6i+D =NxQZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Early History of OSM
Il giorno 25/ago/2014, alle ore 12:55, Ilya Zverev zve...@textual.ru ha scritto: Thanks, here is the map for August 2006: http://osmz.ru/osm2006.html#6/53.462/5.08 interesting, thanks for posting this. I have two remarks why it seems missleading for the less informed: - the coastline is more recent than 2006 - you have kept the external data from natural earth (builtup areas for midzoom) So actually in 2006 there was even less map than it appears ;-) cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated
Rafeal, There are circumstances which I cannot discuss at the moment. I would just to prevent any user harassment. - Serge On Aug 25, 2014 10:06 AM, Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Serge: I don't see why people can't speak out their concerns about a user that is doing some suspicious edits, really. In case you think so, I don't feel guilty to have sent a message to this user at the request of Pierre Béland. It's not harmful in my opinion, whether s/he did it on purpose or not. I will let you go on with the research though. Thanks for that. Cheers, Rafael. On 25/08/14 21:40, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Pierre, As the DWG person who is already working on this case, we have said that we are investigating and will take action after our investigation is complete. I will not discuss that investigation on this public forum, but you knew this and decided to send this letter to talk despite this. I am very saddened by this. I'm concerned that in response to your mail, there will be a lot of people harassing this newbie (whether or not his actions in this matter were correct). This is not a positive response, so please, instead, let the DWG continue its process. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk - -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya - Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT+0IhAAoJEB3niTly2pPQCHoQAI/z8KZdIpvL9M70Dm77WLK9 NGePbWTs1o7QrbJZSKq/0Wc5s7H1MHD0KXZ9OMw4rNU7t+Clddh5Fuuqd2+hnwi0 PJyrFBP2QvyVIbEgY3dxM/ypSJWUeEdED9xgrQMux5vdDn+PRE2JS9MbmKHi/Hei jHLfWvMEh0JYiERLr9WXGabv0D2j/nlyyJRVjz3TLsm0NroO3xNso/FR0ExthAYk JxCu1grnryl2K//d4JAIivN2AshqaArUjZ6Q/gbAs+Zd5YgUpiCbp+3np+7/Mrh8 PUmrPUluruq8zEwQYuYnoWpPd1cozco1dyjsQkOR31L4vjLmDFoApt48XqCwC53m 6O+KUDvSzvKQotkNZedVHMLzoN4tnyIrBV947euNxkwLeFRkh8q5han7F4B0yHsl DCMNz/u5/HZ3Q/dtOPQpRTzKxZbKE7zA0/gqypNWWIvn02cLFXd/L5q2AbRM7NHg COa9FtFKGWNsVYX8KuO0YmRazX/KKPkaKerc5uS4GBKQD+ULdcFdWgT72+EIxPWV 3mvNtTov9B/KUqIT4hXrJaiSPLT62ZQ0ebEP49/1PyXKZt5T9wnCwxWjH223vmfp riz02axGi08cOQ4zjN936726f25HnNusefTYpo3XHuaX7pKnLMo2ov9mcfGMywTM AdSJnKMX3QYlwbyO6i+D =NxQZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Serge: I appreciate your work in the DWG. I really do. It's only that I can also understand, at the same time, the worries of people that are working hard in an area like the ebola one. Some times you (DWG) can be too busy to deal with all cases of potential vandalism. As you can figure out, I sent the message before knowing you were already investigating this issue. I try always to be polite with my OSM messages asking for information about suspicious or wrong edits. Good luck and thanks again. Rafael. On 25/08/14 22:20, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Rafeal, There are circumstances which I cannot discuss at the moment. I would just to prevent any user harassment. - Serge On Aug 25, 2014 10:06 AM, Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Serge: I don't see why people can't speak out their concerns about a user that is doing some suspicious edits, really. In case you think so, I don't feel guilty to have sent a message to this user at the request of Pierre Béland. It's not harmful in my opinion, whether s/he did it on purpose or not. I will let you go on with the research though. Thanks for that. Cheers, Rafael. On 25/08/14 21:40, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Pierre, As the DWG person who is already working on this case, we have said that we are investigating and will take action after our investigation is complete. I will not discuss that investigation on this public forum, but you knew this and decided to send this letter to talk despite this. I am very saddened by this. I'm concerned that in response to your mail, there will be a lot of people harassing this newbie (whether or not his actions in this matter were correct). This is not a positive response, so please, instead, let the DWG continue its process. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk - -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya - Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT+0oZAAoJEB3niTly2pPQ0tQP/3297Lzrot5nottKafQiUZPd Qst7GrZGyU+q047TTUmjSXDWO83tQXFOWBuzBU3canMQZ3h1ESxOPaOHyyeLXgjS 48YCOo5JQqnz4/340re1SzOivKbRKUx/ZWTIHjAjpje4Bm2cI+MvPiuDoDjcVc3i aqZE6szPuJqVniVXjn1XFjqAgTGc/cSb5nXH76Nd6L0jNKkEeBHlv1eX1s72TuHN Up1rf3ZNk2/uGbNxecWK/q9j6NfyJrJPQOOMo0Yolz+3frhtPergThaUSujNyzOy 9j0l+5dNV1rYtvlcCWL8e3E5DDbaeF7/tcRJ7PG0wyLbbo0oaYP0aY9Rn6OiIlk/ zvCfllJ43dyFsIT1tZYLHvaT/kn8o+Es59xSOacDDhjfeMiDlGLoMoqqSDG9/WIB iWt7KojbWa2+7wh9guwZ/a+b2XSydh/kVgSMtXGKe7EcPGlC/d/cuF3od2CKB4hS CDZ84CMb+SDE9HWBrv7mlBy0N/6ZPx78ATQo/+vsUxIXYwgsT8Pr4dQU41rkPDbx 0WS+CjfM9TKQuDNB5qIrzJnaAB3IfEXlNH6tDEtbkzL/lni3nlBFYwloUC9ESY3V W84n3VtfaHSHehCYJGwGyxW+4ZI1YmHGIMDERL28sNBtnA8kjGHSijrgafqb0Gdk VcYDu3VZJ4JIKCmpf+q5 =L+4V -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Early History of OSM
On Monday 25 August 2014, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: - the coastline is more recent than 2006 Since August 2006 seems to have been around the time when coastline mapping started there probably was hardly any data. In case this is of interest, the oldest coastline node currently used seems to be http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12183965 mapped as part of a man_made=pier originally. The earliest PGS imported node still in use apparently is http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13491356 -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?
Is the app centering on central Stockholm when the gps on the mobile device isn't activated? There have been created probably about 100 notes on the exact same location in central Stockholm in all kinds of languages, probably by people trying to report actual errors, but don't realize their gps is deactivated. Maybe you could stop reports from being sent when the unit's gps is deactivated? /Andreas On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Erik Mattsson erik.matts...@appello.com wrote: Enabling users to submit GPS traces is definitely in our to-do list, unfortunately it didn’t make it into the first iteration. The position of the note is stored as soon as the user opens the report tab, so the user can edit it for a while and when it is sent it’s still the position when he opened the menu that gets sent with the report. Including the heading should be fairly simple, we have also planned to include the position accuracy in the notes. Thank you for your feedback. //Erik *From:* Christian Quest [mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr] *Sent:* den 21 augusti 2014 08:35 *Cc:* OpenStreetMap *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that? More (automatic) details in the notes could be useful. For example: add the heading (something like N, NW, etc)... Also make sure you're creating the note at the earliest position and not when the report is saved/confirmed. Have you considered sharing GPS traces ? This would be another major datafeed to improve OSM data quality... 2014-08-19 16:47 GMT+02:00 p...@trigpoint.me.uk: Hi Eric Thanks for your comments, I have been having a play with wisepilot and do quite like it. Pleased to see you are addressing the issues we have pointed out. I did find the login to osm after i used it, but used with care I found it excellent. It was a quiet time so I was able to stop where the limits changed and was then able to use the notes to indicate the points to split the ways. The fact I then used them helped, not so easy if it had been someone else. Thanks Phil (trigpoint ) On Tue Aug 19 2014 13:58:06 GMT+0100 (BST), Erik Mattsson wrote: Hi my name is Erik and I work as a developer at Appello that owns the Wisepilot application. In our latest release (5.1) we've included a first iteration for a report component with the intention to make it easier for our users to report map issues in OSM. Unfortunately the release for version 5.1 was pushed hard to be ready before the summer vacations which led to us not having much personnel here monitoring the feedback we got during the summer vacations. I'm very sorry we didn't get on the issues you've discussed in this thread earlier. Our intention with this report component is to try to increase the quality of the navigation data in OSM by making it easier for our users to report issues they see while driving. We've got quite a big chunk of users that aren't that tech savvy so we want to make it easy for these users to contribute to the map quality while using the application normally. These are users that feel that it's too big a step to go to the OSM page and edit the data directly. This was our first iteration and apparently we have quite a lot of issues to address here. All map notes users send go through our server to OSM and a copy is saved in our database so we can track the usage internally. We currently allow anonymous posting but since it seems like too many spam posts gets created we will try to impose limits that encourages users to register at OSM more. Users can sign in to OSM in the application and if they do the notes are posted as their account. We are working towards increasing the quality of the reports and any feedback from the community is very welcome. We switched from commercial map data to OSM quite recently(Feb - March) and since the switch we've been working on improving the OSM functionality in our application. This component is just one part of that. I've tried to read through most of the comments here and have made two small fixes that will be rolled out on our servers later today. Those are to block reports with 0 as speed and that we add a signature stating that the report was sent through us. In the short term we will try to make client changes that enforce some basic spam preventing rules and provides the users with more information about what happens with their reports. We will also look over the imperial/metric situation. As it is now we use the same system as the user does within the application and we did the assumption that users that drives in a country with imperial system also have the client set to imperial. In a lot of cases this doesn't seem to be the case though, so this needs to be addressed. Please feel free to contact me or supp...@appello.com (or here on OSM-talk) with feedback or questions about this component or the application in general. We do not
Re: [OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated
Serge Sorry but I dont follow you here. After contacting the DWG, you answered me saying that you were looking at this but that I should contact the list. Then I addressed this to the list. Do you say that I am harassing a contributor by addressing the problem to the list? Pierre De : Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com À : Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Lundi 25 août 2014 10h20 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated Rafeal, There are circumstances which I cannot discuss at the moment. I would just to prevent any user harassment. - Serge On Aug 25, 2014 10:06 AM, Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Serge: I don't see why people can't speak out their concerns about a user that is doing some suspicious edits, really. In case you think so, I don't feel guilty to have sent a message to this user at the request of Pierre Béland. It's not harmful in my opinion, whether s/he did it on purpose or not. I will let you go on with the research though. Thanks for that. Cheers, Rafael. On 25/08/14 21:40, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Pierre, As the DWG person who is already working on this case, we have said that we are investigating and will take action after our investigation is complete. I will not discuss that investigation on this public forum, but you knew this and decided to send this letter to talk despite this. I am very saddened by this. I'm concerned that in response to your mail, there will be a lot of people harassing this newbie (whether or not his actions in this matter were correct). This is not a positive response, so please, instead, let the DWG continue its process. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk - -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya - Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT+0IhAAoJEB3niTly2pPQCHoQAI/z8KZdIpvL9M70Dm77WLK9 NGePbWTs1o7QrbJZSKq/0Wc5s7H1MHD0KXZ9OMw4rNU7t+Clddh5Fuuqd2+hnwi0 PJyrFBP2QvyVIbEgY3dxM/ypSJWUeEdED9xgrQMux5vdDn+PRE2JS9MbmKHi/Hei jHLfWvMEh0JYiERLr9WXGabv0D2j/nlyyJRVjz3TLsm0NroO3xNso/FR0ExthAYk JxCu1grnryl2K//d4JAIivN2AshqaArUjZ6Q/gbAs+Zd5YgUpiCbp+3np+7/Mrh8 PUmrPUluruq8zEwQYuYnoWpPd1cozco1dyjsQkOR31L4vjLmDFoApt48XqCwC53m 6O+KUDvSzvKQotkNZedVHMLzoN4tnyIrBV947euNxkwLeFRkh8q5han7F4B0yHsl DCMNz/u5/HZ3Q/dtOPQpRTzKxZbKE7zA0/gqypNWWIvn02cLFXd/L5q2AbRM7NHg COa9FtFKGWNsVYX8KuO0YmRazX/KKPkaKerc5uS4GBKQD+ULdcFdWgT72+EIxPWV 3mvNtTov9B/KUqIT4hXrJaiSPLT62ZQ0ebEP49/1PyXKZt5T9wnCwxWjH223vmfp riz02axGi08cOQ4zjN936726f25HnNusefTYpo3XHuaX7pKnLMo2ov9mcfGMywTM AdSJnKMX3QYlwbyO6i+D =NxQZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] web page element browsing history regression
It's been some time now that the new web page is deployed, and despite the overall improvement, the regression for object browsing (tiny part of the screen is actually useful, map occupies most of the screen but is really not needed or could be much smaller at least, the current presentation style leads to scrolling requirement for any slightly more complex object) is still bothering the users. Also dates and times are not shown any more, instead there is approximated text like almost 6 years ago, 12 months ago etc. The fact that map data is loaded for every browse page also leads to significant traffic overhead, eg on mobile or other slow internet connections. I understand that this is an open source project with volunteer contributions, but that part actually WAS already functional for years. Would it be possible to get the old browsing and history pages back, at least until someone comes up with an improvement? Is there support for such a partial rollback? Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] web page element browsing history regression
+1 on some solution for the mobile refresh -- Alex On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: It's been some time now that the new web page is deployed, and despite the overall improvement, the regression for object browsing (tiny part of the screen is actually useful, map occupies most of the screen but is really not needed or could be much smaller at least, the current presentation style leads to scrolling requirement for any slightly more complex object) is still bothering the users. Also dates and times are not shown any more, instead there is approximated text like almost 6 years ago, 12 months ago etc. The fact that map data is loaded for every browse page also leads to significant traffic overhead, eg on mobile or other slow internet connections. I understand that this is an open source project with volunteer contributions, but that part actually WAS already functional for years. Would it be possible to get the old browsing and history pages back, at least until someone comes up with an improvement? Is there support for such a partial rollback? Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] web page element browsing history regression
On 8/25/2014 9:43 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I understand that this is an open source project with volunteer contributions, but that part actually WAS already functional for years. Would it be possible to get the old browsing and history pages back, at least until someone comes up with an improvement? Some people view the new pages as an improvement. Some don't. There's no universal opinion. Is there support for such a partial rollback? Leaving aside if it's a good idea, to do such a rollback would require someone coding it. I really doubt any of the people normally involved in coding on the rails port are interested, and I suspect it's not a trivial revert. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-br] Spam no mapa?
Não acho que deva ser deletado. Isso enriquece o mapa sim. E nosso mapa tem o desejo de publicidade, de ser publico. Não eh mesmo? Apesar de a linguagem usada denotar propaganda, isso em nada impede que pessoas queiram encontrar este estabelecimento no mapa. Portanto acho bom mantermos as portas abertas a esses usuários. Pq se toda empresa resolver anunciar seus produtos lá e os usuários começarem a achar coisas no osm. Sera ótimo. Em 25/08/2014 22:27, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros alexandre@gmail.com escreveu: Penso que o usuário pode ser orientado para comunicar o máximo daquelas coisas usando as etiquetas corretas. Em 25/08/2014 20:40, Gerald Weber gwebe...@gmail.com escreveu: Gente, isto é spam? ht Gente, isto é spam? http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3030201555 Gerald ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Spam no mapa?
É isso aí, só acho que deveria ser feita a tag correta, ou algum outro modo correto, como falou o Wille e o Alex. Dessa forma que foi feita nem é o melhor jeito para os usuários encontrarem o anúncio no GPS. On 25Aug, 2014, at 22:41, Erick de Oliveira Leal erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com wrote: Não acho que deva ser deletado. Isso enriquece o mapa sim. E nosso mapa tem o desejo de publicidade, de ser publico. Não eh mesmo? Apesar de a linguagem usada denotar propaganda, isso em nada impede que pessoas queiram encontrar este estabelecimento no mapa. Portanto acho bom mantermos as portas abertas a esses usuários. Pq se toda empresa resolver anunciar seus produtos lá e os usuários começarem a achar coisas no osm. Sera ótimo. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Spam no mapa?
Eu acho assunto muito importante Primeiro acho propaganda este tipo e poluido, mas tambem aceita deixar algum tipo propaganda assim no mapa, porque? 1) com o mapa ficando mais conhecida, este vai acontecer mais, este vai atrair mais coloboradores. Apagando este informacao pode resultar em edit war, que vai dar muito trabalho ao pessoas fazendo manutencao e so dar ainda maia vontagem fazer propaganda assim 2) eles contribuindo dados validos, deixa um pouco propaganda (que nao e rendericada) como um cenora para eles realmente contribuir este dado valido 3) com propaganda assim aumentando o rating do nossos sites de metainformation nos motores de busca (google, yahoo, bing) que vai ajuda em recrutamemto do mapeadores e conhencimento do projeito, este e mesmo argumento para evitar edit war, como o nome do spammer, alguma links p site, o produto, vai receber ainda melhor rating Claro este so tem validade se eles entrar ou reutilicar dados validos, entrar este tipo propaganda no nós que tem nada ver com impresa ou produto no propaganda deve ser apagados Aun Johnsen Sent from my iPhone ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-is] Tenging stíga og rútun fyrir gangandi og hjólandi
Hæ. Skoðaði highway=footway á wiki síðu OSM og þar er ekki gefið að það skuli túlka sjálfgefið sem bicycle=no heldur gefið frjálst á hvorn veginn það er túlkað af hálfu algrímanna. Ef við tökum bicycle=yes af yrði það líklega mismunandi milli algrímanna hvort þeir beini hjólafólki eftir stígum eða götum. Einhverjar umræður hafa verið í gangi á aðalpóstlista OSM um sjálfgefin gildi á tilteknum svæðum þar sem hægt væri að setja inn sjálfgefnar stillingar í samræmi við lög og reglur sem gilda á hverju svæði, svo ekki þurfi að merkja allt innan svæðisins með einhverju sem gildir alls staðar. Veit samt ekki hvort eða hvenær slíkar sjálfgefnar skilgreiningar yrðu innleiddar. Persónulega hefði ég talið það eðlileg virkni fyrir hjólaumferð í rútunaralgrímum að beina fólki á stíga ef það er styttri og/eða öruggari leið, sérstaklega ef um er að ræða óvant hjólafólk. Fólkið sem telur sig ráða við að hjóla á götum getur auðvitað hunsað tillögu algrímanna um að nota stíga ef aðstæður leyfa, eða fólkið sem semur algrímana geri ráð fyrir þessu og lagi algrímana að þessum veruleika. Ef ég ætlaði að fara stystu leiðina fyrir hjól myndi ég eðlilega vilja fá leiðarlýsingu þar sem ég get notfært mér alla stíga sem ég má hjóla á. Ef bicycle=yes yrði tekið af í Fellahverfinu, rútunaralgrímurinn myndi túlka skortinn sem bicycle=no og ég myndi óska eftir hjólaleið frá Völvufelli 11 og til Drafnarfells 2, þá myndi hann mæla með því að ég myndi hjóla eftir götunni út Völvufellið og síðan hringinn í kringum húsin meðfram Suðurfelli og Norðurfelli áður en ég kemst á Drafnarfell. Með bicycle=yes myndi algrímurinn mæla með því að ég myndi hjóla stuttan stíg norður að Drafnarfelli 2. Með bicycle=yes: http://openrouteservice.org/index.php?start=-21.824661,64.1007793end=-21.8247791,64.1012104pref=Bicyclelang=denoMotorways=falsenoTollways=false Án bicycle=yes: http://openrouteservice.org/index.php?start=-21.824661,64.1007793end=-21.8247791,64.1012104pref=Fastestlang=denoMotorways=falsenoTollways=false Síðan eru auðvitað líklegri tilvik eins og ef einhver biður um hjólaleið milli Seljahverfisins í Reykjavík og yfir í Lindahverfið eða Salahverfið í Kópavogi (ekki endilega milli heimilisfanga sem eru rétt hjá hvort öðru). Fyrri áhyggjurnar í þessari umræðu voru einnig að OpenCycleMap birti of mikið af bláum leiðum sem eiga að vera sérstakar hjólaleiðir. En ef merkja á stíga með bicycle=yes á stígum sem eru ekki meðfram götum mun birtast hellingur af bláum blettum á því korti ef reynt er að halda í rútunina. Ef úrval slíkra stíga er of strangt mun fólk undrast af hverju tilteknir stígar á kortinu urðu ekki fyrir valinu þegar þeir eru augljóslega hentugri en sú leið sem var valin. Þetta er nokkurn veginn það sem fólk er að lenda í þegar stígar eru ekki tengdir almennilega. Tæknilega séð eigum við að merkja stíga sem eru fyrir ótilgreindar tegundir óvélknúinnar umferðar sem highway=path. Gætum íhugað að breyta highway=footway í highway=path nema á þeim stöðum þar sem skilgreint er sérstaklega að stígurinn sé fyrir ákveðna umferð eingöngu (eins og sérstaka hjólastíga). Þá getum við sleppt bicycle=yes tagginu þar sem það er sjálfgefið og liturinn fyrir það er ekki æpandi á OpenCycleMap. Varðandi úrlausn myndi ég ekki mæla með því að stígar meðfram götum yrðu teknir út enda myndi það brjóta nokkuð mikið í bága við ‚don't tag for the renderer‘ regluna (sem á einnig við um rútanir). Það ferli að velja sérstaklega hvaða leiðir eru viðeigandi og merkja þær (þar með talið koma sér saman um almenn viðmið og viðhalda merkingum) getur alveg eins verið jafn fyrirhafnarmikið og setja inn þveranir þar sem á við. Auk þess væri það nokkuð selective tagging að fara að stunda það að velja leiðir með þessum hætti og myndi vera langt frá því að leysa úr rútunarvandanum fyrir gangandi vegfarendur (jafnvel með notkun á sidewalk tagginu). Ef gögnin eru rétt og rútunaralgrímar eru að mæla með einhverju röngu, þá á að leysa vandamálið í algrímunum sjálfum en ekki með því að rengja rétt gögn. Sama gildir ef eitthvað kemur ljótt út á korti. OpenStreetMap verkefnið gengur aðallega út á gögnin en ekki hvernig þau eru túlkuð nema af afar litlu leiti. Mín tillaga undir þessum kringumstæðum er að vinna í að bæta þveranir og taka umræðuna varðandi að breyta highway=footway í highway=path. Það tekur auðvitað einhverja vinnu í upphafi að framkvæma þetta en eitthvað sem mun þurfa að gera að endingu. Með kveðju, Svavar Kjarrval On 21/08/14 10:10, Arni Davidsson wrote: Hæ Já Bristol á Englandi. Mér sýnist þetta snúast um magn af gögnum. Það eru lítil gögn í Bristol og þeir fáu stígar sem eru teiknaðir eru einfaldlega tengdir við götu (og gert ráð fyrir gangstéttum við þær) og svo er rútað eftir götunni fyrir gangandi. Stígurinn í þessu tilviki er ekki með bicycle=yes og því ættu hjól að fara eftir götu skv. þessu: Rútað fyrir hjól
Re: [Talk-it] MISE su TANTO
Qualcuno sa perché il sito con il confronto dei prezzi del carburante http://toolserver.openstreetmap.it/carburantiMiSE/distributori.htm non funziona piu? AnyFile 2014-08-05 9:45 GMT+02:00 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: Il nostro Sabas ha scritto un ottimo articolo sul blog TANTO in cui parla dell'osservatorio dei prezzi del MISE http://blog.spaziogis.it/2014/07/28/losservatorio-carburanti-ed-una-missione-per-la-trasparenza/ Bravo Stefano! -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] MISE su TANTO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 25/08/2014 21:39, Any File ha scritto: Qualcuno sa perché il sito con il confronto dei prezzi del carburante http://toolserver.openstreetmap.it/carburantiMiSE/distributori.htm non funziona piu? Forse perchè nel tuo link manca una L finale (L s'intende quella minuscola)? - -- Simone Girardelli -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iF4EAREIAAYFAlP7l9wACgkQoVS0hKoD3PPt2QD/fPE0UOJnlS7DN+HCiOB91/e3 eGRGCgP+iaZTi7rEDgoBAIHCJlkkFqSGDaWccH1GqcmiOQwF96rsZ2fZxeQ/h3QL =mio3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] MISE su TANTO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 25/08/2014 22:09, girarsi_liste ha scritto: Il 25/08/2014 21:39, Any File ha scritto: Qualcuno sa perché il sito con il confronto dei prezzi del carburante http://toolserver.openstreetmap.it/carburantiMiSE/distributori.htm non funziona piu? Forse perchè nel tuo link manca una L finale (L s'intende quella minuscola)? AH! no scusa, avevo capito male, ho visto adesso sulla mappa cosa intendevi. - -- Simone Girardelli -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iF4EAREIAAYFAlP7mYoACgkQoVS0hKoD3PN9CwD+JUvC4FovJ/53WRKdxCIPNbY3 ThgKCTYV2ZtsGpRTa0wA/2Z2au7VmuPb4D55lCW2QYxznI8c88aBnnIk1ayyT2Oj =8RKy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] MISE su TANTO
Il giorno 25 agosto 2014 21:39, Any File anysomef...@gmail.com ha scritto: Qualcuno sa perché il sito con il confronto dei prezzi del carburante http://toolserver.openstreetmap.it/carburantiMiSE/distributori.htm non funziona piu? http://toolserver.openstreetmap.it/carburantiMiSE/distributori.html#9/40.1558/8.5391 A me funziona (da pc ho provato in questo momento)... Che problemi ti da'? AnyFile Ciao, Stefano 2014-08-05 9:45 GMT+02:00 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: Il nostro Sabas ha scritto un ottimo articolo sul blog TANTO in cui parla dell'osservatorio dei prezzi del MISE http://blog.spaziogis.it/2014/07/28/losservatorio-carburanti-ed-una-missione-per-la-trasparenza/ Bravo Stefano! -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Carta tecnica Comune di Lecce
Ciao, volevo informare la ML italiana che l'import di Lecce e dei comuni limitrofi è concluso. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lecce Ora tocca alla comunità pugliese continuare l'opera! :) Leonardo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-es] Subida de catastro en la Palma de C. y dudas
Hola a todos, He realizado la segunda subida de datos del catastro (por manzana). El changeset es éste: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24906573 Com sabéis voy anotándolo todo aquí[1]. Tengo algunas dudas: - Cuando una casa ocupa dos parcelas, por ejemplo ésta[2], pero a pie de calle sólo hay un número... Qué valor le dais a la etiqueta addr:housenumber? Sólo el que tiene en el portal o todo los números que ocupa en la calle? Yo he puesto los dos aunque no sé si es lo correcto. - En edificios que ocupan más de dos parcelas, por ejemplo en un addr:housenumber=43,49 le añado addr:interpolation=odd[4] pero veo que la búsqueda de OSM no encuentra por ejemplo el 46. - A las casas que dan a dos calles y tienen dos entradas les he puesto el entrance en el polígono del edificio. No sé si es mejor esto o ponerlas en el landuse (?), que es realmente dónde está la entrada..[5] - Para los comercios... los ponéis en un nodo suelto o en un nodo entrance en el polígono del edificio? No lo tengo muy claro... Y otra cosa... En zonas dónde hay casas con terrenos que se tocan... Qué os parece mejor: 1. Dejar los distintos landuse=residential que vienen en el catastro 2. Unir los landuse=residential y dibujar un barrier=wall en las zonas que separan las parcelas. Entiendo que con la segunda opción se economiza datos, no? Aprovecho para comentar que he visto que cuando los datos se han subido, con el mapa de OsmAnd es mucho más fácil detectar anomalías en los polígonos que sse hayan podido colar con JOSM. Gracias a todos Un saludo! [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Palma_de_Cervell%C3%B3#Masses [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3024685493#map=19/41.41282/1.96756 [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3024685510 [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.41302mlon=1.96710#map=19/41.41302/1.96710 -- *KONFRARE ALBERT* La Konfraria de la Vila del Pingüí de La Palma de Cervelló www.konfraria.org • @La_Konfraria http://twitter.com/La_Konfraria ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-at] Fwd: Wien in OSM - im August 2006
Wien in OSM im August 2006: http://osmz.ru/osm2006.html#13/48.2007/16.2577 Hauptsächlich das Werk von http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Gabriel%20Ebner :) *daumenhoch* /al ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-cz] RUIAN-Lands
Tak ten problém s konflikty stále trvá - včera jsem předělával nějaké budovy a pár se mi jich podařilo vyrobit. Ale myslím, že už vím jak to opravit. Jinak, protože LPIS nejede a nemůžu testovat, tak jsem začal řešit restíky. A zjistil jsem, že jsem nějak zlenivěl, nechce se mi vyklikávat to co je k dispozici jinak, takže jsem si narychlo spíchl silně experimentální modul RUIAN-Lands - tedy obrysy parcel se tahají z RUIANu. Funguje to docela dobře, ale ještě je tam docela docela dost věcí k vyřešení. Například mapování. Základ jsem vzal z wiki [1], ale něco jsem mírně upravil - třeba solární elektrárnu. Brzy snad tu wiki upravím a pak to můžeme probrat. Taky zvažuji, jestli parcely z RUIAN nechat jako samostatný modul, nebo to zaintegrovat to RUIAN modulu - kliknu někam a pokud se v daném místě najde budova, tak se natrasuje, jinak se bude hledat parcela pod tím. Co myslíte? [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:RUIAN#Parcely Marián -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 22. 8. 2014 17:31:47 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] chybové hlášení v josm Super. Budu muset kouknout na to, co tam je špatně. S těmi neotagovanými cestami jsi mně trochu vystrašil. Naštěstí je to tentokrát opravdu neznámá hodnota v poli kultura. Přidal jsem 'RRD', neboli rychle rostoucí dřeviny, do mapování. http://www.kyralovi.cz/tmp/josm/beta/20140822/Tracer.jar (http://www.kyralovi.cz/tmp/josm/beta/20140822/Tracer.jar) Marián Dne 22.8.2014 16:58, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): Takže hlásím výsledek - nahrání včera problémových polí naklikaných novým tracerem proběhlo bez závad, pouze jsem si všiml, že pole s id 9221912, 9221915, 8570649 a 9884541 se opět nahrála bez tagů určujících druh kultury Pražák Dne 21. srpna 2014 22:09 Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz (mailto:mky...@email.cz) napsal(a): Ještě to zkoumám, ale zdá se, že problém vzniká, pokud se klikne do již nějakého existujícího pole a tracer by jej měl tedy nahradit. Ovšem místo nahrazení vzniknou duplicitní cesty. Prozatím jsem tu funkci vypnul. Můžeš to prosím otestovat? http://www. kyralovi.cz/tmp/josm/beta/20140820/Tracer.jar (http://www.kyralovi.cz/tmp/josm/beta/20140820/Tracer.jar) Díky Marián Dne 21.8.2014 21:23, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): V traceru je opravdu něco shnilého zkusil jsem udělat další pole v okolí holic - dával jsem si pozor na přesahující pole a na správné klikání ale při nahrávání na osm se opět objevila hláška o špatném požadavku. bohužel jsem však při ukládání udělal nějakou chybu a zbývající soubor se mi nepodařilo uložit - proto jsem celý changeset 24916286 revertoval. Pražák Dne 21. srpna 2014 19:41 Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz (mailto:mky...@email.cz) napsal(a): Tak teď se mi podařilo vygenerovat 13 konfliktů :-( Něco shnilého je ve státě Dánském. Co s tím zatím nevím. Marián Dne 21.8.2014 19:11, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): dobře nebudu tedy editovat okrajová pole. Pokud se týká duplicitních polí tak nevím jak vznikly - do každého pole jsem klikl jen jednou Jinak nic zvláštního se nestalo Díky za opravu Pražák Dne 21. srpna 2014 18:41 Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz (mailto:mky...@email.cz) napsal(a): Divné. tu jsem včera intenzivně zkoušel a tohle jsem tam neřešil. Nestalo se něco zvláštního, co by stálo za zmínku? Nevím jaký máš styl práce, ale takové to editování přes okraj stáhnuté oblasti nedělá dobrotu. Akorát na mne vyskákala halda konfliktů. A taky je potřeba koukat kam klikáš. Bylo tam plno duplicitně umístěných polí. Marián Dne 21.8.2014 18:26, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): no měla by to být včerejší verze, pošlu ti ji na mail Pražák -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz(mailto:mky...@email.cz) Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org(mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org) Datum: 21. 8. 2014 18:18:56 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] chybové hlášení v josm Uf, uf, uf. Těch bylo. Prosím tě. Vzpomeneš si, kterou verzi Traceru máš? Marián Dne 21.8.2014 17:12, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): pošlu ti ten soubor přes úschovnu Díky Pražák -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz(mailto:mky...@email.cz) Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org(mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org) Datum: 21. 8. 2014 17:06:05 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] chybové hlášení v josm Uložit jako soubor, pak to xml otevřít v nějakém editoru a smazat všechny výskyty node -58874. A nebo to zabal a pošli mi to emailem. Já to udělám a pošlu ti to zpátky. Asi tam těch uzlů bude více. Někde v pluginu bude chybka, ale zatím nevím, kde přesně. Marián Dne 21.8.2014 16:38, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): nahrával jsem pole v okolí Holic v Čechách - changeset 24910320. Při nahrávání se mi objevila hláška OSM server .api/0.6/ reportoval špatný požadavek Chybové hlášení nepřeložené Placeholder node not found for reference - 58874 in way 58798 Zbývá nahrát 3141 objektů. co mám dělat abych to mohl donahrát
Re: [Talk-cz] RUIAN-Lands
Ahoj, ja bych myslel to nechat jako samostatny modul, jinak to bude asi pri praci trochu mast. Jinak se na to uz tesim. :-) Dalibor From: Marián Kyral [mailto:mky...@email.cz] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 8:13 AM To: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic Subject: Re: [Talk-cz] RUIAN-Lands Tak ten problém s konflikty stále trvá - včera jsem předělával nějaké budovy a pár se mi jich podařilo vyrobit. Ale myslím, že už vím jak to opravit. Jinak, protože LPIS nejede a nemůžu testovat, tak jsem začal řešit restíky. A zjistil jsem, že jsem nějak zlenivěl, nechce se mi vyklikávat to co je k dispozici jinak, takže jsem si narychlo spíchl silně experimentální modul RUIAN-Lands - tedy obrysy parcel se tahají z RUIANu. Funguje to docela dobře, ale ještě je tam docela docela dost věcí k vyřešení. Například mapování. Základ jsem vzal z wiki [1], ale něco jsem mírně upravil - třeba solární elektrárnu. Brzy snad tu wiki upravím a pak to můžeme probrat. Taky zvažuji, jestli parcely z RUIAN nechat jako samostatný modul, nebo to zaintegrovat to RUIAN modulu - kliknu někam a pokud se v daném místě najde budova, tak se natrasuje, jinak se bude hledat parcela pod tím. Co myslíte? [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:RUIAN#Parcely Marián -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz mailto:mky...@email.cz Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 22. 8. 2014 17:31:47 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] chybové hlášení v josm Super. Budu muset kouknout na to, co tam je špatně. S těmi neotagovanými cestami jsi mně trochu vystrašil. Naštěstí je to tentokrát opravdu neznámá hodnota v poli kultura. Přidal jsem 'RRD', neboli rychle rostoucí dřeviny, do mapování. http://www.kyralovi.cz/tmp/josm/beta/20140822/Tracer.jar Marián Dne 22.8.2014 16:58, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): Takže hlásím výsledek - nahrání včera problémových polí naklikaných novým tracerem proběhlo bez závad, pouze jsem si všiml, že pole s id 9221912, 9221915, 8570649 a 9884541 se opět nahrála bez tagů určujících druh kultury Pražák Dne 21. srpna 2014 22:09 Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz mailto:mky...@email.cz napsal(a): Ještě to zkoumám, ale zdá se, že problém vzniká, pokud se klikne do již nějakého existujícího pole a tracer by jej měl tedy nahradit. Ovšem místo nahrazení vzniknou duplicitní cesty. Prozatím jsem tu funkci vypnul. Můžeš to prosím otestovat? http://www.kyralovi.cz/tmp/josm/beta/20140820/Tracer.jar Díky Marián Dne 21.8.2014 21:23, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): V traceru je opravdu něco shnilého zkusil jsem udělat další pole v okolí holic - dával jsem si pozor na přesahující pole a na správné klikání ale při nahrávání na osm se opět objevila hláška o špatném požadavku. bohužel jsem však při ukládání udělal nějakou chybu a zbývající soubor se mi nepodařilo uložit - proto jsem celý changeset 24916286 revertoval. Pražák Dne 21. srpna 2014 19:41 Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz mailto:mky...@email.cz napsal(a): Tak teď se mi podařilo vygenerovat 13 konfliktů :-( Něco shnilého je ve státě Dánském. Co s tím zatím nevím. Marián Dne 21.8.2014 19:11, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): dobře nebudu tedy editovat okrajová pole. Pokud se týká duplicitních polí tak nevím jak vznikly - do každého pole jsem klikl jen jednou Jinak nic zvláštního se nestalo Díky za opravu Pražák Dne 21. srpna 2014 18:41 Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz mailto:mky...@email.cz napsal(a): Divné. tu jsem včera intenzivně zkoušel a tohle jsem tam neřešil. Nestalo se něco zvláštního, co by stálo za zmínku? Nevím jaký máš styl práce, ale takové to editování přes okraj stáhnuté oblasti nedělá dobrotu. Akorát na mne vyskákala halda konfliktů. A taky je potřeba koukat kam klikáš. Bylo tam plno duplicitně umístěných polí. Marián Dne 21.8.2014 18:26, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): no měla by to být včerejší verze, pošlu ti ji na mail Pražák -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Marián Kyral mailto:mky...@email.cz mky...@email.cz Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 21. 8. 2014 18:18:56 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] chybové hlášení v josm Uf, uf, uf. Těch bylo. Prosím tě. Vzpomeneš si, kterou verzi Traceru máš? Marián Dne 21.8.2014 17:12, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): pošlu ti ten soubor přes úschovnu Díky Pražák -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Marián Kyral mailto:mky...@email.cz mky...@email.cz Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 21. 8. 2014 17:06:05 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] chybové hlášení v josm Uložit jako soubor, pak to xml otevřít v nějakém editoru a smazat všechny výskyty node -58874. A nebo to zabal a pošli mi to emailem. Já to udělám a pošlu ti to zpátky. Asi tam těch uzlů bude více. Někde v pluginu bude chybka, ale zatím nevím, kde přesně. Marián Dne 21.8.2014 16:38, Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a): nahrával jsem pole v okolí Holic v Čechách - changeset 24910320. Při nahrávání se mi objevila hláška
[Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden
Ahoj, všiml jsem zelené plochy uprostřed Klánovic v Praze: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/50.09258/14.66904 Je to tím, že zahrady u rodinných domů jsou tagovány jako leisure=garden. Podle wiki je to v pořádku ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=garden), i když se s tím moc často nesetkávám. Subjektivně mi připadá zbytečné renderovat to na obecné mapě, ale hlavně současný stav, kdy je takto uděláno jen pár domů mi přijde jako vyloženě kontraproduktivní - při pohledu na celou vesnici to tam ční a působí to jako nějaký park. Jaký je váš názor? Má smysl tagovat takto jednotlivé zahrady? Vašek ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden
Uz o tom zde probihala diskuze tykajici se nejakych vil a prilehlych pozemku na tusim ze P6. Vysledek je, ze soukrome oplocene zahrady a pozemky je nesmysl takto tagovat a je to spatne. L. __ Od: Václav Řehák rehak...@gmail.com Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 25.08.2014 10:39 Předmět: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden Ahoj, všiml jsem zelené plochy uprostřed Klánovic v Praze: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/50.09258/14.66904 Je to tím, že zahrady u rodinných domů jsou tagovány jako leisure=garden. Podle wiki je to v pořádku ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=garden), i když se s tím moc často nesetkávám. Subjektivně mi připadá zbytečné renderovat to na obecné mapě, ale hlavně současný stav, kdy je takto uděláno jen pár domů mi přijde jako vyloženě kontraproduktivní - při pohledu na celou vesnici to tam ční a působí to jako nějaký park. Jaký je váš názor? Má smysl tagovat takto jednotlivé zahrady? Vašek -- ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden
Takhle kategoricky bych to neodsuzoval. Spíš to je zatím nedořešený problém, což se lze dočíst i na příslušné wiki stránce. -- Původní zpráva -- Od: luka...@volny.cz Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org, OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 25. 8. 2014 10:55:00 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden Uz o tom zde probihala diskuze tykajici se nejakych vil a prilehlych pozemku na tusim ze P6. Vysledek je, ze soukrome oplocene zahrady a pozemky je nesmysl takto tagovat a je to spatne. L. __ Od: Václav Řehák rehak...@gmail.com Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 25.08.2014 10:39 Předmět: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden Ahoj, všiml jsem zelené plochy uprostřed Klánovic v Praze: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/50.09258/14.66904 Je to tím, že zahrady u rodinných domů jsou tagovány jako leisure=garden. Podle wiki je to v pořádku ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=garden), i když se s tím moc často nesetkávám. Subjektivně mi připadá zbytečné renderovat to na obecné mapě, ale hlavně současný stav, kdy je takto uděláno jen pár domů mi přijde jako vyloženě kontraproduktivní - při pohledu na celou vesnici to tam ční a působí to jako nějaký park. Jaký je váš názor? Má smysl tagovat takto jednotlivé zahrady? Vašek -- ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden
2014-08-25 10:53 GMT+02:00 luka...@volny.cz: Uz o tom zde probihala diskuze tykajici se nejakych vil a prilehlych pozemku na tusim ze P6. Vysledek je, ze soukrome oplocene zahrady a pozemky je nesmysl takto tagovat a je to spatne. L. Prave naopak. Vysledek je, ze to je logicke a spravne tagovani. -- Michal Grézl http://openstreetmap.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden
Dne Po 25. srpna 2014 11:10:47, Michal Grézl napsal(a): 2014-08-25 10:53 GMT+02:00 luka...@volny.cz: Uz o tom zde probihala diskuze tykajici se nejakych vil a prilehlych pozemku na tusim ze P6. Vysledek je, ze soukrome oplocene zahrady a pozemky je nesmysl takto tagovat a je to spatne. Prave naopak. Vysledek je, ze to je logicke a spravne tagovani. logika zdá se býti věcí subjektivní :-) já jsem leisure chápal jako něco, kde může volný čas trávit veřejnost (byť třeba s nějakými omezeními) aktuální (ehm, tři a půl roku starý) návrh je leisure pro soukromé zahrady nepoužívat: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:leisure=garden#Deprecate_this_for_private.2C_residential_gardens.3F K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden
Leisure se bere jako oblast, kde LZE trávit volný čas. Od toho, jestli je veřejná či soukromá, máme access=*. Ten návrh v talk je pouze poznámka jednoho uživatele, která nemá, dokud se neodhlasuje nebo alespoň nepřepíše jako proposal, naprosto žádnou váhu. Navíc je to nesmysl. Vytvoří se tak zbytečné tisícovky dalších landuse= residential a pochybuju, že si někdo dá práci s rozdělením velkých landuse =residential do jednotlivých zahrad. Navíc opravdu se vám pod pojmem obytná oblast vybaví zahrada? :-) Pokud chcete opravdu něco, co má alespoň nějakou váhu, tak je to tohle: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Garden_specification (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Garden_specification) -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Karel Volný ka...@seznam.cz Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 25. 8. 2014 16:08:50 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden Dne Po 25. srpna 2014 11:10:47, Michal Grézl napsal(a): 2014-08-25 10:53 GMT+02:00 luka...@volny.cz: Uz o tom zde probihala diskuze tykajici se nejakych vil a prilehlych pozemku na tusim ze P6. Vysledek je, ze soukrome oplocene zahrady a pozemky je nesmysl takto tagovat a je to spatne. Prave naopak. Vysledek je, ze to je logicke a spravne tagovani. logika zdá se býti věcí subjektivní :-) já jsem leisure chápal jako něco, kde může volný čas trávit veřejnost (byť třeba s nějakými omezeními) aktuální (ehm, tři a půl roku starý) návrh je leisure pro soukromé zahrady nepoužívat: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:leisure=garden#Deprecate_this_ for_private.2C_residential_gardens.3F K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden
Dne 25.8.2014 16:34, Michal Pustějovský napsal(a): Leisure se bere jako oblast, kde LZE trávit volný čas. Od toho, jestli je veřejná či soukromá, máme access=*. Ten návrh v talk je pouze poznámka jednoho uživatele, která nemá, dokud se neodhlasuje nebo alespoň nepřepíše jako proposal, naprosto žádnou váhu. Navíc je to nesmysl. Vytvoří se tak zbytečné tisícovky dalších landuse=residential a pochybuju, že si někdo dá práci s rozdělením velkých landuse=residential do jednotlivých zahrad. Navíc opravdu se vám pod pojmem obytná oblast vybaví zahrada? :-) Pokud chcete opravdu něco, co má alespoň nějakou váhu, tak je to tohle: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Garden_specification Jo, tak tohle se mi líbí. Dávám plus 1. A co jsem tak koukal na taginfo, leisure=garden se používá po celém světě, ale nejvíce v evropě. Je otázka, v kolika případech to je skutečně veřejná zahrada. Podle mne je tohle stejný případ jako leisure=swimming_pool, který má v JOSM překlad soukromý bazén. A co tak teď koukám, tak v JOSM se teď automaticky vytvoří s access=private. Ad hlasování) Moc to nesleduji, ani pořádně nevím kde (tagging@?). Jak to teď funguje? Marián -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Karel Volný ka...@seznam.cz Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 25. 8. 2014 16:08:50 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Zahrady u RD jako leisure=garden Dne Po 25. srpna 2014 11:10:47, Michal Grézl napsal(a): 2014-08-25 10:53 GMT+02:00 luka...@volny.cz: Uz o tom zde probihala diskuze tykajici se nejakych vil a prilehlych pozemku na tusim ze P6. Vysledek je, ze soukrome oplocene zahrady a pozemky je nesmysl takto tagovat a je to spatne. Prave naopak. Vysledek je, ze to je logicke a spravne tagovani. logika zdá se býti věcí subjektivní :-) já jsem leisure chápal jako něco, kde může volný čas trávit veřejnost (byť třeba s nějakými omezeními) aktuální (ehm, tři a půl roku starý) návrh je leisure pro soukromé zahrady nepoužívat: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:leisure=garden#Deprecate_this_for_private.2C_residential_gardens.3F K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[OSM-talk-fr] Comparaison géocodage...
J'ai déployé une instance de l'outil de comparaison de géocodage geocodeComp disponible sur https://github.com/communaute-cimi/geocodeComp Il est ici: http://osm.cquest.org/geocodeComp/ Il permet de tester: - Nominatim - Photon (données OSM + BANO d'il y a plusieurs semaines) - Google -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] talk-fr de retour de vacances...
Grosse pause depuis le 20 août. Il y avait semble-t-il un problème sur le serveur de mailing list qui a été réglé (pas pas moi) vers 15h. Les messages envoyés entre temps ont semble-t-il été perdus. Donc ça y est, c'est officiellement la rentrée ;) -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comparaison géocodage...
Photon n'a pas l'air d'aimer les place=hamlet J'ai testé avec plusieurs, et il indique parfois l'emplacement du admin_center, parfois un ruisseau, parfois autre chose. Exemple avec Les rochettes 49700 concourson sur layon Stf Le lundi 25 août 2014 16:24:07, Christian Quest a écrit : J'ai déployé une instance de l'outil de comparaison de géocodage geocodeComp disponible sur https://github.com/communaute-cimi/geocodeComp Il est ici: http://osm.cquest.org/geocodeComp/ Il permet de tester: - Nominatim - Photon (données OSM + BANO d'il y a plusieurs semaines) - Google -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] rendu qa : analyse par commune
bonjour, le rendu qa permet de voir les routes et le bati manquant. J'ai voulu quantifier cela par commune le fichier (3.0Mo) est a cette url : http://osm2020.free.fr/qa-commune/ on peut ainsi trouver + des communes ayant un import partiel du cadastre : metz (corrigé maintenant), nimes + avec du bati mais le cadastre au format image : Illkirch-Graffenstaden (plus de 2 habitant!) + une partie des ways manquant (toutes les routes n'ont pas nécessairement de la population aux environs). le critere de distance entre un carré insee (200*200m) et une route ou un bati est d'une centaine de metres ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Piste cyclable à contre sens et couloir bus à 2 voies
Bonjour, comment code-t-on sur une voie à sens unique, une piste cyclable à contre sens du flux voiture ?? Egalement comment définir qu'un tronçon est partagé entre 2 voies libres et 2 voies bus ? Merci ! -- Hugues P. GCS RRAMUHN ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Piste cyclable à contre sens et couloir bus à 2 voies
Comme le T3 ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#Cycle_tracks Le 25 août 2014 19:17, HParv talk-fr@rramuhn.org a écrit : Bonjour, comment code-t-on sur une voie à sens unique, une piste cyclable à contre sens du flux voiture ?? Egalement comment définir qu'un tronçon est partagé entre 2 voies libres et 2 voies bus ? Merci ! -- Hugues P. GCS RRAMUHN ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] talk-fr de retour de vacances...
Bonjour Le 25/08/2014 16:27, Christian Quest a écrit : Les messages envoyés entre temps ont semble-t-il été perdus. Comment savoir si l'on a fait partie de ceux là ? Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] talk-fr de retour de vacances...
Bonjour Le 25/08/2014 19:26, David Crochet a écrit : Comment savoir si l'on a fait partie de ceux là ? Si on les voient ici [1] c'est que c'est ok ? Cordialement [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2014-August/thread.html -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] talk-fr de retour de vacances...
Oui,s'ils ne sont pas sur cette liste c'est qu'il sont bien rangés dans /dev/null Le 25 août 2014 19:28, David Crochet david.croc...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour Le 25/08/2014 19:26, David Crochet a écrit : Comment savoir si l'on a fait partie de ceux là ? Si on les voient ici [1] c'est que c'est ok ? Cordialement [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2014- August/thread.html -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] talk-fr de retour de vacances...
Si entre le dernier message de Christian Quest du 20 août (sujte Compariason OSM/Route500) Une première étape d'analyse géométrique existe déjà, il s'agit de comparer les longueurs entre OSM et Route500 sur le ref=* dans un département donné. et le premier message reçu aujourd'hui à 16:53 de didier2020 (sujet rendu qa: analyse par commune) tu n'as aucun message, tu fais partie de ceux-là. Le 25 août 2014 19:31, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Oui,s'ils ne sont pas sur cette liste c'est qu'il sont bien rangés dans /dev/null Le 25 août 2014 19:28, David Crochet david.croc...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour Le 25/08/2014 19:26, David Crochet a écrit : Comment savoir si l'on a fait partie de ceux là ? Si on les voient ici [1] c'est que c'est ok ? Cordialement [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2014- August/thread.html -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] talk-fr de retour de vacances...
Les messages perdus du 20 août à aujourdhui 16;53 ne sont PAS sur cette archive. Le 25 août 2014 19:28, David Crochet david.croc...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour Le 25/08/2014 19:26, David Crochet a écrit : Comment savoir si l'on a fait partie de ceux là ? Si on les voient ici [1] c'est que c'est ok ? Cordialement [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2014- August/thread.html -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: Questions sur services
Je renvoie le mail comme la liste a planté ;) -- Message transféré -- De : Jean-Baptiste Holcroft jb.holcr...@gmail.com Date : 24 août 2014 10:26 Objet : Questions sur services À : Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Cc : Bonjour, Deux petites questions : - Est-ce que quelqu'un a déjà vu l'application Achavi fonctionner ? http://overpass-api.de/achavi/ C'est sensé utiliser les diff augmentés de overpass-api mais je n'arrive pas à obtenir de données de l'API en renseignant une id et l'application ne semble rien donner, est-ce lié ? - Est-ce que le layer des traces gps est définitivement mort ? http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps#OpenStreetMapGPSTraces Depuis quelques semaines, impossible d'obtenir des données. Est-ce qu'il faut copier l'adresse utilisée sur le visualisation de l'article https://www.mapbox.com/blog/openstreetmap-gps-layer/ ? Bonne cartographie -- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Réunion OSM-Paris de rentrée ! NOUVEAU LIEU
C'est ce vendredi à partir de 19h et ça se déroulera Maison des Associations du 2ème arrondissement 23, rue Greneta http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/691721185#map=19/48.86510/2.35053 Connexion réseau et tables seront disponibles pour poser nos ordinateurs (portables) et travailler un peu ensemble ! -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Piste cyclable à contre sens et couloir bus à 2 voies
Le 25 août 2014 19:17, HParv talk-fr@rramuhn.org a écrit : Bonjour, comment code-t-on sur une voie à sens unique, une piste cyclable à contre sens du flux voiture ?? Bonjour, il y a plusieurs solutions selon la nature de la piste : cycleway:left=opposite_lane (si c'est une bande cyclable sur la même chaussée que les voitures) cycleway=opposite (s'il n'y a pas de bande cyclable tracée, juste un petit vélo dessiné par terre) si c'est une piste bien séparée, tu peux aussi tracer un chemin à part entière et le définir en highway=cycleway Pierre-Yves ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-ja] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named
Hello everyone. In some countries (Japan, Korea…), people orient themselves in the local area using the names of road junctions or traffic signals rather then the names of streets. I have documented the current tagging practice for simple junctions at the following new wiki pages: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Named_spots_instead_of_street_names http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Dyes Furthermore, some more text has been added here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtraffic_signals#Named_traffic_signals.2Ftraffic_signal_systems_.28Japan.E2.80.A6.29 Feedback and/or corrections are welcome. The current tagging practice works well for simple junctions, but makes problems on complex junctions. Therefore, the proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions_or_traffic_signals_that_are_named has been created. Particularly if you are mapping in one of the concerned countries please participate at the discussion at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions_or_traffic_signals_that_are_named Lukas Sommer ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] 北海道の住所表記の変更提案
こんにちは、奈良の石川です。いいださん、長期出張と検証で返事が すっかり遅くなりすみません。また、説明文を書いて下さり、あり がとうございます。 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Addresses#.E5.8C.97.E6.B5.B7.E9.81.93.E3.81.AE.E9.80.9A.E3.82.8A.E5.90.8D.E7.A7.B0.E8.A1.A8.E8.A8.98 に書いていただいた通りで、基本的にはいいと思います。ただ、もしか したら後日私以外の方から詳細について異論が出るかも知れませんので、 その時にはまた議論におつきあい下さい。具体例を挙げますと、「西区 八軒1条西1丁目」であれば 西区 / 八軒 / 1条西1丁目 の解釈でまず間違いないと思う (西X丁目と東X丁目は線対称の関係に ある) のですが、「厚別区厚別北1条1丁目」ですと形式的には 厚別区 / 厚別 / 北1条1丁目 厚別区 / 厚別北 / 1条1丁目 の解釈が可能です。厚別北1条、厚別東1条、厚別西1条、厚別中央1条、 の間には幾何的な関係がなさそうなので、後者の解釈が妥当な気が しますが…すみません、同じ札幌市内でも私が住んでいた場所からは かなり離れているので、該当地の地元感覚はあまりよく分かりません。 より地元に近い方から詳論が出てくるまで、とりあえずはいいださんが 書いて下さったままでいいかと思います。 コンビニの住所表記などは、以下のようなものでよろしいでしょうか (情報提供が遅すぎでしたら、申し訳ありません)。 http://www.seicomart.co.jp/storemap/index.php?select_sikuchoson=%E6%9C%AD%E5%B9%8C%E5%B8%82select_prf=%E5%8C%97%E6%B5%B7%E9%81%93case1=case2=case3=case4=case5=case6=case7=PFLG= -- 石川 On Thursday, August 21, 2014 3:57 PM, Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com wrote: いいだです。 修正してみました。 こんなかんじでイメージにあってますでしょうか？ https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Addresses#.E5.8C.97.E6.B5.B7.E9.81.93.E3.81.AE.E9.80.9A.E3.82.8A.E5.90.8D.E7.A7.B0.E8.A1.A8.E8.A8.98 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApY7X6fw8sqxdDNjY1FBeG00TlRZSFoxU2xwOHVCb0E#gid=0 2014年8月12日 23:36 Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com: いいだです。 ごめんなさい、メールの振り分けで見逃していました。。。 実地感覚での意見、とても嬉しいです。 札幌市内だけでもそういう分類があるのですね。 いただいた提案で、個人的にはよいと思います。 札幌市内のほうも、以下の表記にしてしまってよいのではないかな、と思っています。 addr:quarter … □□ (大字の扱い) addr:neighbourhood … △条☆丁目 (小字の扱い) 特に他に北海道在住の方、ご意見いただけると嬉しいです。 また、他の地域でも同様の問題はあるのじゃないかな、と思っています。 実際に入力してみたり、自分の知っている住所を分類する時に 肌感覚とあわない、という場合は相談いただけるととても助かります。 反対がないようであれば、ページの更新もしたいと思います。 奈良の石川さん もし当該地域の住所で手持ちのサンプルがあれば、教えていただけませんか？ (例えば、コンビニとかの店舗の情報など) 2014年7月30日 19:06 ISHIKAWA Takayuki zhnosa-ope...@yahoo.com: こんにちは、先日 ML に加入した、奈良の石川です。(この ML には私 以外にも石川さんがいらっしゃるようなので、私は居住県を頭につけて 名乗ることにしました。) 1年前に議論があった話なので恐縮ですが、 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Addresses#.E5.8C.97.E6.B5.B7.E9.81.93.E3.81.AE.E9.80.9A.E3.82.8A.E5.90.8D.E7.A7.B0.E8.A1.A8.E8.A8.98 において、北海道内の市の条・丁目表記について、「大字/町と同一 (addr:quarter)の階層へ入力してください。」とされている点に違和感 を感じています。 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApY7X6fw8sqxdDNjY1FBeG00TlRZSFoxU2xwOHVCb0E#gid=0 で言いますと、51行目の部分です。 札幌市内は、中心部こそ「○区△条☆丁目」となっていますが、その 大部分は「○区□□△条☆丁目」のように「大字/町」に該当する地名 (□□の部分) がついています。この規則に従いますと、札幌市内の 大部分の土地 (□□がつく土地) は、 addr:quarter … □□△条☆丁目 addr:neighbourhood … (なし) となります。他の都府県では「丁目」の部分は addr:neighbourhood に 入れられるのに、北海道だけは「丁目」がつくにも関わらず addr: quarter に入れられることになり、不自然です。何より、札幌で生まれ 育ってきた私の感覚と合いません。 そこで、北海道内の市であっても、他の都府県と同様に「△条☆丁目」 の部分は addr:neighbourhood に入れる、という提案をしたいのですが、 そういう提案はこの ML で行えばよろしいでしょうか。 addr:quarter … □□ addr:neighbourhood … △条☆丁目 なお、この ML では新参者ですので、もし何か手続きの誤りや失礼な 行動がありましたらご指摘下さると幸いです。 -- 石川 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja -- Satoshi IIDA mail: nyamp...@gmail.com twitter: @nyampire -- Satoshi IIDA mail: nyamp...@gmail.com twitter: @nyampire ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] 牛丼屋・牛めし屋の cuisine* タグ
おかのです 調査ありがとうございます、 もしかしてそれ、OSM wiki内のリンク(http://(snip)/JA:)を編集する動作に巻き込まれて編集されてませんか？ 先のメールが間違っていました。 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=JA:How_to_map_adiff=845119oldid=845114 ここで、 cuisine:ja=牛丼 が cuisine=牛丼 に変更されています。 # これ以外にも、複数個所で subkey=ja が削除されています。 「subkey=ja が削除」ではなく、 「sybkey=ja 」というtypoつきでの修正がされたため、 ^ 「:ja」がレンダリングされなくなった、というものでした。 また、「複数個所で subkey=ja が削除」は私の思い違いでした。 申し訳ありません。 当時の wiki の編集の意図としては、cuisine:ja=牛丼 だったものと思います。 また、このメーリングリスト上でも cuisine:ja=牛丼 への反対はありませんでしたので、 そのように wiki を修正 ( s/sybkey/subkey/ ) のうえ、OSM の松屋のデータにも反映します。 # てか、wiki の履歴を調べるのがすごく面倒なのですが、 # cvs annotate 的なことができる方法はありませんかね。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [Talk-GB] Bus routes and names
That's a very London-centric view of life. Numbers are not necessarily unique locally once you get out into the sticks. Stuart Sent from my iPhone On 23 Aug 2014, at 14:58, David Woolley for...@david-woolley.me.uk wrote: On 23/08/14 14:50, Amaroussi-OSM wrote: Maybe I could try “London Buses 38 → Victoria”? I don't think you need the network. The number should be locally unique without that. People don't qualify bus numbers by London bus in real life. I just wanted to reduce the time it takes to find and update relationin JOSM, given that the much-needed modernisation is a big thing. It is precisely to aid finding them in JOSM that I prefer to have the number first. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-TW] Talk-TW 摘要、容量 49、條目 3
感覺很有趣 確定時間是10月10號嗎？還是有其他選項 我先book起來 上官 talk-tw-requ...@openstreetmap.org 於 2014年8月25日 下午5:43 寫道： 欲在 Talk-TW 論壇發言 , 請 email 給 talk-tw@openstreetmap.org 經由 WWW 訂閱或取消訂閱 , 請到 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw 或經由 email , 送出一封標題或內文為 'help' 到 talk-tw-requ...@openstreetmap.org 欲與壇主(論壇管理人)取得連絡時 , 請 email 給 talk-tw-ow...@openstreetmap.org 當回信時 , 請給一個適當的標題 , 如此會比 Re: Contents of Talk-TW digest...來得有意義. 今日主題： 1. Proposed OSM mapping party (Joseph Young - NCKU) 2. Re: Proposed OSM mapping party (HsinYI Chen (hychen)) 3. Re: Proposed OSM mapping party (Joseph Young - NCKU) 4. Re: Proposed OSM mapping party (Wei Wang) 5. Re: Proposed OSM mapping party (李昕迪) -- 轉寄訊息 -- From: Joseph Young - NCKU dryn...@gmail.com To: 李昕迪 mcd...@gmail.com, OSM.TW talk-tw@openstreetmap.org, Dongpo Deng dongpod...@gmail.com, Louis Liu ptt...@gmail.com, Hsin-Yi Chen ossug.hyc...@gmail.com, Wang Wei b...@e-show.tw Cc: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:53:29 +0800 Subject: [Talk-TW] Proposed OSM mapping party Dear all 有關下學期在成大資工系自由軟體的課程 有鑑於上次辦的mapping party效果還不錯 所以打算這學期還是會在台南舉辦 時間想選在10/10(Fri) 課程原本是在禮拜五 但是這天剛好放假 而且是連假的long weekend 也好也不好 不好的是 學生可能會另有安排 但是對平常上班假日沒有遠行的人 或是北部想到南部度假的人應該還不錯 這次我想請台南在地的導覽志工來幫忙帶一些路線 6、7月時台南有個活動 「府城踅街─行東西、走南北」 http://www.tainanstory.com.tw/index.php/2013-05-14-07-39-59/28-1030628-tainan-walking 兩段路線我都走過 覺得還蠻有意思 可以擷取部分路段來進行 也許回來畫完後 可以再讓學生把那些古蹟點的資訊再加上去 希望未來讓地圖資訊可以結合 歷史及觀光等 或是也可以跟hychen的台南百年文史古地圖作怎樣的結合或再利用 請大家提供意見 謝謝 楊中平 -- 轉寄訊息 -- From: HsinYI Chen (hychen) ossug.hyc...@gmail.com To: Joseph Young - NCKU dryn...@gmail.com Cc: OSM.TW talk-tw@openstreetmap.org, Dongpo Deng dongpod...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:28:19 +0800 Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] Proposed OSM mapping party 不曉楊老師有沒有用過文史脈流? http://deh.csie.ncku.edu.tw/deh/index.html 感覺跟我做的文史古地圖想做的是滿像的 XD Best regards, Hsin Yi Chen More about me: http://about.me/hychen Joseph Young - NCKU dryn...@gmail.com 於 2014年8月25日 下午12:53 寫道： Dear all 有關下學期在成大資工系自由軟體的課程 有鑑於上次辦的mapping party效果還不錯 所以打算這學期還是會在台南舉辦 時間想選在10/10(Fri) 課程原本是在禮拜五 但是這天剛好放假 而且是連假的long weekend 也好也不好 不好的是 學生可能會另有安排 但是對平常上班假日沒有遠行的人 或是北部想到南部度假的人應該還不錯 這次我想請台南在地的導覽志工來幫忙帶一些路線 6、7月時台南有個活動 「府城踅街─行東西、走南北」 http://www.tainanstory.com.tw/index.php/2013-05-14-07-39-59/28-1030628-tainan-walking 兩段路線我都走過 覺得還蠻有意思 可以擷取部分路段來進行 也許回來畫完後 可以再讓學生把那些古蹟點的資訊再加上去 希望未來讓地圖資訊可以結合 歷史及觀光等 或是也可以跟hychen的台南百年文史古地圖作怎樣的結合或再利用 請大家提供意見 謝謝 楊中平 -- 轉寄訊息 -- From: Joseph Young - NCKU dryn...@gmail.com To: HsinYI Chen (hychen) ossug.hyc...@gmail.com Cc: OSM.TW talk-tw@openstreetmap.org, Dongpo Deng dongpod...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:10:12 +0800 Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] Proposed OSM mapping party 我知道黃崇明老師的這個計畫 但是並沒有去了解他們所開發的系統 過去總覺得學生只是要交差 計畫結束了老師也不會再維護 除非open source出來給社群才是一條延續價值的途徑 因為這是教育部一個蠻大的計劃 有許多的師生參加 也累積了不少資料 只是看起來 計畫好像已經結束 之前應該是應上面要求 形式上辦個推廣研習會 總之 也蠻有參考價值 也許可以再跟他們聯絡看看 謝謝你的資訊 楊中平 HsinYI Chen (hychen) ossug.hyc...@gmail.com 於 2014年8月25日 下午1:28 寫道： 不曉楊老師有沒有用過文史脈流? http://deh.csie.ncku.edu.tw/deh/index.html 感覺跟我做的文史古地圖想做的是滿像的 XD Best regards, Hsin Yi Chen More about me: http://about.me/hychen Joseph Young - NCKU dryn...@gmail.com 於 2014年8月25日 下午12:53 寫道： Dear all 有關下學期在成大資工系自由軟體的課程 有鑑於上次辦的mapping party效果還不錯 所以打算這學期還是會在台南舉辦 時間想選在10/10(Fri) 課程原本是在禮拜五 但是這天剛好放假 而且是連假的long weekend 也好也不好 不好的是 學生可能會另有安排 但是對平常上班假日沒有遠行的人 或是北部想到南部度假的人應該還不錯 這次我想請台南在地的導覽志工來幫忙帶一些路線 6、7月時台南有個活動 「府城踅街─行東西、走南北」 http://www.tainanstory.com.tw/index.php/2013-05-14-07-39-59/28-1030628-tainan-walking 兩段路線我都走過 覺得還蠻有意思 可以擷取部分路段來進行 也許回來畫完後 可以再讓學生把那些古蹟點的資訊再加上去 希望未來讓地圖資訊可以結合 歷史及觀光等 或是也可以跟hychen的台南百年文史古地圖作怎樣的結合或再利用 請大家提供意見 謝謝 楊中平 -- 轉寄訊息 -- From: Wei Wang b...@e-show.tw To: Joseph Young - NCKU dryn...@gmail.com Cc: OSM.TW talk-tw@openstreetmap.org, Dongpo Deng dongpod...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:11:52 +0800 Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] Proposed OSM mapping party 楊老師好。 這二條路線都是不錯的路線， 也有再行前的說明會與到老師。 老師如果可以找到鄭老師本來。 在走之前有一段行前的導讀或許是不錯的機會。 如果找不到鄭老師也可以找歐財榮（歐哥）或 邱明賢校友做出發前的導讀。 這部份可以在做規劃。祝活動順利。 Bert Wang Joseph Young - NCKU dryn...@gmail.com 於 2014年8月25日 下午12:53 寫道： Dear all 有關下學期在成大資工系自由軟體的課程 有鑑於上次辦的mapping party效果還不錯 所以打算這學期還是會在台南舉辦 時間想選在10/10(Fri) 課程原本是在禮拜五 但是這天剛好放假 而且是連假的long weekend 也好也不好 不好的是 學生可能會另有安排 但是對平常上班假日沒有遠行的人 或是北部想到南部度假的人應該還不錯 這次我想請台南在地的導覽志工來幫忙帶一些路線 6、7月時台南有個活動 「府城踅街─行東西、走南北」 http://www.tainanstory.com.tw/index.php/2013-05-14-07-39-59/28-1030628-tainan-walking 兩段路線我都走過 覺得還蠻有意思 可以擷取部分路段來進行 也許回來畫完後 可以再讓學生把那些古蹟點的資訊再加上去 希望未來讓地圖資訊可以結合 歷史及觀光等 或是也可以跟hychen的台南百年文史古地圖作怎樣的結合或再利用 請大家提供意見 謝謝 楊中平 -- 轉寄訊息 -- From: 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di mcd...@gmail.com To: Wei Wang b...@e-show.tw Cc: OSM.TW talk-tw@openstreetmap.org, Joseph Young - NCKU dryn...@gmail.com, Dongpo Deng dongpod...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:42:33 +0800 Subject: Re: [Talk-TW]
