Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: But the point I was trying to make was more that of 'We get stopped and told we have to ask permission' while Goggle stick two fingers up and just carry on regardless. It is about time there was a level playing field, and just

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-31 Thread Lester Caine
John Smith wrote: --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: But the point I was trying to make was more that of 'We get stopped and told we have to ask permission' while Goggle stick two fingers up and just carry on regardless. It is about time there was a level playing

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: more inclusive than is necessary. So from my perspective they ARE intentionally going out of their way to invade privacy by showing views that are simply not normally visible? If we want to see what is over a wall we can now

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread OJ W
their kit looks quite bulky. I've got just one videocamera (and no LIDAR) fitted, and it all mounts on handlebars with room to spare for other stuff. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Georeference_video Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the cameras up above the traffic? other people

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/30 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com: their kit looks quite bulky.  I've got just one videocamera (and no LIDAR) fitted, and it all mounts on handlebars with room to spare for other stuff. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Georeference_video Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 30/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the cameras up above the traffic? I guess they are recording in higher resolutions. The problem with I don't know what res street view in general is but you can't read most

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
John Smith wrote: Sent: 30 July 2009 10:42 AM To: OJ W; m...@koppenhoefer.com Cc: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes --- On Thu, 30/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the cameras up above the traffic

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread Lester Caine
OJ W wrote: Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the cameras up above the traffic? THAT I think is the big mistake that Google made. Pushing the camera head up so that it looks OVER security walls and hedges is what annoys people the most. If a person has to use a ladder to obtain a

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread OJ W
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote: OJ W wrote: Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the cameras up above the traffic? THAT I think is the big mistake that Google made. Pushing the camera head up so that it looks OVER security walls and hedges is what

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread Lester Caine
Yann Coupin wrote: The problem is that your reasoning doesn't take bus/coach/hgv into account. You're probably going to be as high in each of those vehicules as Google's cams are... Not on many of the private roads that are now being photographed but from which large vehicles are banned -

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/7/30 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: Simply filming and saying 'we will remove pictures if you want' is just arrogance that should not be condoned. What's wrong with it? Where's the exact line dividing looking with naked eye and filming? Since a camera is a set of light sensors and

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, andrzej zaborowski wrote: The idea of google streetview infringing anybody's privacy is so misled. I'm sure there is lots of intelligent argument on both sides of the fence and I have no desire of going into the details here. But on a more general note - I think that someone's privacy is

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread simon
I meant to send this to the list As an idea for 'openstreetviewbike' you could use a single camera pointing straight up with a rotating mirror above it in order to capture in all directions at once. The velocity of the bike would probably be OK to still capture pictures with close enough

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread simon
I meant to send this to the list... What's wrong with it? Where's the exact line dividing looking with naked eye and filming? I think that the difference here is that they make the images available for others to view. There can be a great difference between taking a picture of a drunk,

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread simon
As an idea for 'openstreetviewbike' you could use a single camera pointing straight up with a rotating mirror above it in order to capture in all directions at once. A colleague suggested using a hi-res camera shooting upwards onto a fixed multi-angle mirror. How much resolution do you need

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:51 PM, si...@mungewell.org wrote: A Canon EOS Rebel, a few mirrors and some glue... might be an interesting experiment. The Canon 30D (for example) is rated for 100,000 shutter cycles. If you take a shot every 1-10 seconds, you'll be able to go for roughly 6

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Ian Dees wrote: That's why Google uses high-res digital video cameras running on Firewire on their rigs. I was more expecting the Elphel board design ;) Using 20MP kodak's CCDs like they use in their book digitizing stuff. Stefan

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 30/7/09, si...@mungewell.org si...@mungewell.org wrote: What's wrong with it?  Where's the exact line dividing looking with naked eye and filming? I think that the difference here is that they make the images available for others to view. There can be a great difference

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread Simon Wood
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:22:23 -0500 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: The Canon 30D (for example) is rated for 100,000 shutter cycles. If you take a shot every 1-10 seconds, you'll be able to go for roughly 6 straight hours before the shutter will fail. OK so how nerdy am I, just spent

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-30 Thread Lester Caine
John Smith wrote: --- On Thu, 30/7/09, si...@mungewell.org si...@mungewell.org wrote: What's wrong with it? Where's the exact line dividing looking with naked eye and filming? I think that the difference here is that they make the images available for others to view. There can be a

[OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-28 Thread Ian Dees
This is very interesting and might be useful if at some point we get Google to open up the license of their street view images: http://fivebells.livejournal.com/24977.html In other news, how's openstreetphoto doing? ___ talk mailing list