Re: [OSM-talk] How to Tag Closed Airport
I sometimes add the survey date in my changeset (comment or a specific tag). This has been more for interest of how long i take. On 26 Jan 2014 19:58, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:04 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: The when last observed disclaimer is unnecessary. Any recorded status is going to be when last observed, unless you are talking about a live broadcast. Not necessarily. A user of Walking Papers http://walking-papers.org/ in particular might record observations made previously. And an intermediate edit might be made that does not involve an observation. In pseudotagging: emergency=aed lastcheck=needs_repair lastcheck:date=2013-12-01 lastcheck:note=Cover ripped off and unit missing. lastcheck:source=December Kenya gps mapping party changeset date=2014-01-01 note=adjusted position of AED to match building outline source=bing changeset date=2013-12-06 note=Added AED found in airport source=survey ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to Tag Closed Airport
One thing to consider is adding some sort of subsidiary tags, such as suggested, add closed to the name, but leave the main aeroway tagged for a few years. If an airport suddenly disappears from normal map rendering there is a natural assumption by map users that OpenStreetMap is in error. I have no strong views on the correctness of that, but it is pragmatic. http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/86784991 Stockholm-Barkarby flygplats (Nedlagd) Mike On 26/01/2014 07:49, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I favor disused=yes, perhaps with access=no and a note=. The wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disused would favor disused:aeroway=aerodrome -Byce Notes 1) Were there an objectnote:en= feature meant for display in map clients, this would be a good addition also. Note 2) While not relevant here, the OSM lifecycle tags are missing a number of steps: broken when last observed is the lifecycle stage I most frequently want to map. There's also under construction but not finished when last observed. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to Tag Closed Airport
2014-02-27 16:32 GMT+01:00 Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz: One thing to consider is adding some sort of subsidiary tags, such as suggested, add closed to the name, but leave the main aeroway tagged for a few years. If an airport suddenly disappears from normal map rendering there is a natural assumption by map users that OpenStreetMap is in error. I have no strong views on the correctness of that, but it is pragmatic. http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/86784991 Stockholm-Barkarby flygplats (Nedlagd) Mike I don't like this practice. You are adding several incorrect statements (wrong name of the former airport, and the fact that there is no airport) because some people are going to be confused by the fact that an airport has disappeared. So if someone runs a script to see how many airports there are in the US, they are going to get a wrong number. A classical case of mapping for the renderer, because if the renderer rendered disused:aeroway=airport, this wouldn't be an issue. Janko ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to Tag Closed Airport
Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: I favor disused=yes, perhaps with access=no and a note=. The wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disused would favor disused:aeroway=aerodrome -Byce Notes 1) Were there an objectnote:en= feature meant for display in map clients, this would be a good addition also. Note 2) While not relevant here, the OSM lifecycle tags are missing a number of steps: broken when last observed is the lifecycle stage I most frequently want to map. There's also under construction but not finished when last observed. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk The when last observed disclaimer is unnecessary. Any recorded status is going to be when last observed, unless you are talking about a live broadcast. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to Tag Closed Airport
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:04 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: The when last observed disclaimer is unnecessary. Any recorded status is going to be when last observed, unless you are talking about a live broadcast. Not necessarily. A user of Walking Papers http://walking-papers.org/ in particular might record observations made previously. And an intermediate edit might be made that does not involve an observation. In pseudotagging: emergency=aed lastcheck=needs_repair lastcheck:date=2013-12-01 lastcheck:note=Cover ripped off and unit missing. lastcheck:source=December Kenya gps mapping party changeset date=2014-01-01 note=adjusted position of AED to match building outline source=bing changeset date=2013-12-06 note=Added AED found in airport source=survey ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] How to Tag Closed Airport
An airport recently closed. How should it be tagged? The airfield is still there, it just not operational. http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/107422#map=15/46.2171/-119.2058layers=N website of field announcing closure: http://www.vistafield.org/ -- Clifford @osm_seattle OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to Tag Closed Airport
I favor disused=yes, perhaps with access=no and a note=. The wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disused would favor disused:aeroway=aerodrome -Byce Notes 1) Were there an objectnote:en= feature meant for display in map clients, this would be a good addition also. Note 2) While not relevant here, the OSM lifecycle tags are missing a number of steps: broken when last observed is the lifecycle stage I most frequently want to map. There's also under construction but not finished when last observed. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
