Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Aug 2020, at 13:40, pangoSE wrote: > > The permid then no longer represents a shop but the > location of a space where a shop could and now does exist. Someone > making a service cataloguing all shopspaces for hire in a city could > then link to this shopspace FWIW.

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-23 Thread pangoSE
Hi Martin I cooked up a suggestion for implementation of permids :) Den Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:56:05 +0200 skrev Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time: > On 2020-08-22 19:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > What kind of perm

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-23 Thread pangoSE
Hi Andy  Andy Townsend skrev: (22 augusti 2020 13:03:56 CEST) > > How/where was the notes addition proposed and implemented? > >If I remember correctly, it was done as a "Google Summer of Code" >project - effectively a sponsorship deal.  However, that project >requires a clone of the OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread pangoSE
Hi Martin :) Den Sat, 22 Aug 2020 19:55:16 +0200 skrev Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time: > sent from a phone > > > On 22. Aug 2020, at 19:44, pangoSE wrote: > > > > Maybe we should first add

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread mmd
On 2020-08-22 19:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > What kind of permanent ids do you want? For some more abstract concept like a > road with a specific name? A shop? A building? If there’s a way tagged with > building=supermarket, shop=supermarket, name=Foo, and you add a permanent id > to it.

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread stevea
One of the best suggestions I and others have made to pangoSE regarding this proposal is a very strong use case or solid, easily-grasped geographically-based examples of a problem (exclusively or largely unsolvable in OSM today, with today's data and tools) that would make for a solvable

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 19:44, pangoSE wrote: > > So one new table for permanent ids that is updated every time: > * a node is created or deleted > * a way is created from scratch or deleted > * a relation is created from scratch or deleted > * a way is converted to a relation

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread pangoSE
Hi Simon Den Sat, 22 Aug 2020 14:22:07 +0200 skrev Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time: > As, independent of any other concerns, a matter of good form, I would > want to point out that there is no such thing as ownership of

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 19:44, pangoSE wrote: > > Maybe we should first add permanent ids (new table) and reference that. we do have permanent ids for nodes, ways and relations. ;-) What kind of permanent ids do you want? For some more abstract concept like a road with a

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread pangoSE
Hi mmd  mmd skrev: (22 augusti 2020 13:41:00 CEST) >On 2020-08-22 11:08, pangoSE wrote: >> The system can then be queried lke this: >> >> IMPLEMENTATION SUGGESTION: >> >> GET Openstreetmap.org/api/userobjects/pangoSE >> Outputs objects for user pangoSE with the oldest first (outputs 10 >>

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Simon Poole
As, independent of any other concerns, a matter of good form, I would want to point out that there is no such thing as ownership of OSM-objects, and discussing a concept of "their OSM-objects" is starting the discussion on the wrong foot. Am 22.08.2020 um 11:08 schrieb pangoSE: > Hi > > I would

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread mmd
On 2020-08-22 11:08, pangoSE wrote: > The system can then be queried lke this: > > IMPLEMENTATION SUGGESTION: > > GET Openstreetmap.org/api/userobjects/pangoSE > Outputs objects for user pangoSE with the oldest first (outputs 10 > entries, can be used to get more, can be used to output up > to

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
> How/where was the notes addition proposed and implemented? If I remember correctly, it was done as a "Google Summer of Code" project - effectively a sponsorship deal.  However, that project requires a clone of the OSM website, which is a much harder job than merely doing something with OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2020 10:32, Andrew Harvey wrote: Nothing is stopping such a system being built at the moment as a 3rd party service, just needs someone motivated enough to build and support it. Yes - exactly that. Until such time as someone writes a "mailing list post to software translator"*

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Andrew Harvey
I think you can set this up with OSM Hall Monitor https://github.com/ethan-nelson/osm_hall_monitor by tracking all the objects you touch and setting them up as subscriptions. Personally I found it easier to just subscribe to my whole city in OSMCha. Nothing is stopping such a system being built

[OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread pangoSE
Hi I would like to track all objects that I ever created or edited. I suggest we implement a system to make this easy. I suggest we create a new system that is updated every time a changeset is uploaded. The new system tracks userids and osmids and date of last change/edit. When I create or