Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-12-31 Thread Alex Kemp
This is my first post within these mailman lists. Just in case I make some mistake that leads to this message not getting placed in the lists correctly, the post that I am trying to respond to is at:– https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-June/082747.html 1.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-07-12 Thread dcapillae
It would hurt a Philosophy student to read that. Socrates didn't write anything. Plato would write it. Excuse me for this off-topic. -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/General-Discussion-f5171242.html ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-06-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25 Jun 2019, 11:19 by frede...@remote.org: > I think that many soft rules, like "you shouldn't use this to post a > question", can also be developed and enforced by the community without a > well defined process and without ever being written down. If someone > posts a question and three

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-06-25 Thread Simon Poole
There is a very big difference between "lively debate", and hurling insults at individuals. Being of a different opinion than our system administrators and expressing that, if very long in the tooth and annoying in its repetitiveness is quite OK, and like most I simply switched to ignoring the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-06-25 Thread Warin
On 25/06/19 18:45, Harry Wood wrote: Anyway...  on the broader principle. At the risk of bringing back the "code of conduct" discussion... If we set out somewhere a set of community standards in terms of "be nice to eachother", but also the types of topics we expect to appear as

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-06-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 25.06.19 10:45, Harry Wood wrote: > Do you have the option of *editing* a diary entry to delete sections of > it, or even delete the whole text? No. This is something the admins can do by fiddling directly with the database, obviously, but there's no user interface for anyone but the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-06-25 Thread Harry Wood
I definitely support moderation actions on the diaries (or indeed any channel) when somebody steps way out of line. > It is unfortunate because this means that quite a few useful comments> >written by some of you - the main subject was ways of fighting diary > spam - were dropped too. Do you

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-06-25 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
Hi, Socrates,  a Greek philosopher, wrote still more than two thousand years ago  "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser". That is, soft words if presented in hard arguments can convey the message more efficiently. One more person had to learn this precious lesson

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-06-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25 Jun 2019, 01:14 by frede...@remote.org: > As I said, it's a rare exception for us to have to do this; these > messages, especially because they weren't one-off heat-of-the-moment > posts but a sustained onslaught, far surpassed in offensiveness anything > I've seen on this or any other OSM

[OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-06-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I am writing this with my DWG hat on. The OSM user diaries are not routinely moderated but the DWG has the technical means to hide comments or whole posts, and will make use of these in extreme situations. I am writing to inform you that there as been one such situation, where a contributor