Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-11-11 Diskussionsfäden andreas wecer
On Mon Nov 10 2014 at 16:45:17 Stefan Tiran stefan.ti...@student.tugraz.at wrote: [1] I assume, it is mostly people who see the world only through the front shield of their car. I think this argument goes both ways, it all comes down to the level of abstraction you are going to apply. We

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-11-10 Diskussionsfäden Norbert Wenzel
On 11/10/2014 07:45 AM, e...@gmx.net wrote: I always thought deleting correct data in osm is kind of forbidden. So i would recommend to leave it in there, its not destroying anything or? You're missing the point of this discussion. It's not about whether correct data should be deleted but

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-11-10 Diskussionsfäden Martin Vonwald
2014-11-10 10:29 GMT+01:00 Stefan Tiran stefan.ti...@student.tugraz.at: Hi, Norbert Wenzel wrote: You're missing the point of this discussion. It's not about whether correct data should be deleted but about the question if mapping parallel footways is actually correct data. This might

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-11-10 Diskussionsfäden Norbert Wenzel
On 11/10/2014 10:29 AM, Stefan Tiran wrote: Norbert Wenzel wrote: On 11/10/2014 07:45 AM, e...@gmx.net wrote: I always thought deleting correct data in osm is kind of forbidden. So i would recommend to leave it in there, its not destroying anything or? You're missing the point of this

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-11-10 Diskussionsfäden grubernd
On 2014-11-09 22:19, Kevin Kofler wrote: But the data is NOT correct. no data in OSM can ever be correct, because than it would be an atomic-exact copy of the real world, and hey, there is already one. ;) leaving ironic philosphical mode, any data in OSM has and always will be an

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-11-10 Diskussionsfäden Stefan Tiran
Hi, Norbert Wenzel wrote: On 11/10/2014 10:29 AM, Stefan Tiran wrote: Norbert Wenzel wrote: On 11/10/2014 07:45 AM, e...@gmx.net wrote: I always thought deleting correct data in osm is kind of forbidden. So i would recommend to leave it in there, its not destroying anything or? You're

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-11-09 Diskussionsfäden Kevin Kofler
grubernd wrote: just thinking about to delete correct data is disrespecting the work of others on every level. But the data is NOT correct. There are only a few crossing opportunities tagged for every street, but it is legal here in Austria to cross a street not only on a zebra crossing, but

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-11-09 Diskussionsfäden Kevin Kofler
PS: I wrote: But the data is NOT correct. There are only a few crossing opportunities tagged for every street, but it is legal here in Austria to cross a street not only on a zebra crossing, but also at ANY point that's not within 25 meters of the next zebra crossing. This cannot be sensibly

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-11-09 Diskussionsfäden emga
Sorry for the wrong format, html instead of txt. The best thing is to think befor you, or somebody else, uses a routing App, Site, etc. So when you view the route, you will see that a immidiate crossing would be shorter than the showen way. I always thought deleting correct data in osm is

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-11-09 Diskussionsfäden Martin Vonwald
2014-11-09 22:19 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: But the data is NOT correct. +1 I agree with KaiRo, this nonsense data should just be deleted, ASAP, before the disease spreads. +1 and another +1 for putting data into quotation marks.

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-10-31 Diskussionsfäden Andreas Wecer
Am 2014-10-30 um 19:36 schrieb Michael Maier: If the sidewalks are correctly mapped, and the kerbs are mapped too (as they are in one of the examples Carles provided, with kerb=lowered), it is clearly an loss if information if the ways are deleted. as far as I can see, there isn't any

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-10-30 Diskussionsfäden Andreas Wecer
Am 2014-10-30 um 01:30 schrieb Carles Pina i Estany: there seems to be footpaths on a normal street. I'm not an OSM expert but this seems unusual? Hi, micromapping of sidewalks is a controversial subject, personally I don't think it's a good idea, but I guess you will not find a consensus on

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-10-30 Diskussionsfäden Michael Maier
On 30/10/14 01:30, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: Hi again, I was reviewing my notes and I noticed something in Vienna that confused me a little bit. It's here for example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=48.194502890110016mlon=16.38637661933899#map=18/48.19637/16.38655 There are, in

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-10-30 Diskussionsfäden Robert Kaiser
Carles Pina i Estany schrieb: there seems to be footpaths on a normal street. Those should all be deleted. They are sideways and ought to be mapped as tags on the street, or else any routing with them won't work properly as you can't build a clear model of where you can access the street

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-10-30 Diskussionsfäden Martin Vonwald
2014-10-30 14:19 GMT+01:00 Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at: Those should all be deleted. They are sideways and ought to be mapped as tags on the street +1 . I consider this kind of mapping as destructive. ___ Talk-at mailing list

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-10-30 Diskussionsfäden Michael Maier
On 30/10/14 14:19, Robert Kaiser wrote: Carles Pina i Estany schrieb: there seems to be footpaths on a normal street. Those should all be deleted. They are sideways and ought to be mapped as tags on the street, or else any routing with them won't work properly as you can't build a clear

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-10-30 Diskussionsfäden Robert Kaiser
Michael Maier schrieb: The result on the past discussion was: Map as you wish, but do not destroy other's work or remove information. No, the outcome was: We can't reach an agreement, so change the area you care about the way you find better without taking information away that you think is

[Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-10-29 Diskussionsfäden Carles Pina i Estany
Hi, (sorry for writing in English here). Last week I went to Austria for tourism (Graz, Vienna, driving between Graz to Salzburg, etc.). I used OsmAnd application to have Open Street Map data off-line, as I usually do. You guys did an excellent job mapping! Austria! Hats off to you! Vienna has

Re: [Talk-at] in Austria, good experience - thank you!

2014-10-29 Diskussionsfäden Carles Pina i Estany
Hi again, I was reviewing my notes and I noticed something in Vienna that confused me a little bit. It's here for example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=48.194502890110016mlon=16.38637661933899#map=18/48.19637/16.38655 There are, in Vienna, many foot paths in places that I wouldn't expect.