Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: > doing things, that's all. I started out when the only Potlatch > editing mode was live editing - and I'm used to doing things, checking > them, and then pushing save if I'm happy. This made me immediately > look for something that worked that

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > don't know what is avail in potlatch overall > a is 'add' mode > s is 'select' mode > d is 'delete' mode > u is unselect > Oh yeah, good old modal editing :) It's like using vim. I found this horribly tedious. In potlatch, left-click does e

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread Steve Bennett
> > >JOSM can be used offline, So far all that's done for me is lose a chunk of edits when they conflicted at upload time. :( (I don't really "do" offline anymore...) > you can use it to import data. Do you do that much? Where do you get it from? >Less responsive. Using an applet in a browser

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, you wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Liz wrote: > > JOSM and Potlatch are not a feature choice, but > > how_you_like_to_use_your_computer choice. > > > > As a keyboard user who started in the 60s (it was a typewriter then) the > > keyboard shortcuts in JOSM are my favo

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread John Smith
2009/12/8 Roy Wallace : > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: >> >> I'm curious to hear what you >> don't like about Potlatch. > > Less responsive. Using an applet in a browser is slower (in my > experience). I also find the panels of JOSM very useful (Relations, > Properties, La

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > > I'm curious to hear what you > don't like about Potlatch. Less responsive. Using an applet in a browser is slower (in my experience). I also find the panels of JOSM very useful (Relations, Properties, Layers, etc.). __

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Liz wrote: > JOSM and Potlatch are not a feature choice, but > how_you_like_to_use_your_computer choice. > > As a keyboard user who started in the 60s (it was a typewriter then) the > keyboard shortcuts in JOSM are my favourite feature. > > Sure, I'm a big keyboar

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread Liz
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: > > I tried using Potlatch, but I've not used it before, and it's driving > > me mad. I'm tempted to try Merkaartor, but I'm used to JOSM, I'd > > rather get it working if I could. I tried the WMS met

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread Peter Ross
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: > I'm looking to use Nearmap with JOSM.  I was doing so quite happily > with the old instructions (using the tested version from bigtincan as > listed in the Nearmap page on the Wiki) but I made the mistake of > upgrading JOSM, as it told me min

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: > I tried using Potlatch, but I've not used it before, and it's driving > me mad. I'm tempted to try Merkaartor, but I'm used to JOSM, I'd > rather get it working if I could. I tried the WMS method listed in > the wiki page, But all it downlo

[talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-07 Thread Stephen Hope
I'm looking to use Nearmap with JOSM. I was doing so quite happily with the old instructions (using the tested version from bigtincan as listed in the Nearmap page on the Wiki) but I made the mistake of upgrading JOSM, as it told me mine was out of date. Now I can't seem to get any version of Sli

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] Anyone able to get/offer proper legal advice over ODBL?

2009-12-07 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Date: 2009/12/8 Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] Anyone able to get/offer proper legal advice over ODBL? To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org, John Smith Hi John, Not legal advice, but some comments/concerns based on what I know of it that might help. I'm pretty sur

Re: [talk-au] NearMap imagery, Brisbane > Springfield, 21 November

2009-12-07 Thread morb . gis
Quoting John Smith : > 2009/12/5 Brendan Morley : > > Interesting, this view shows a latest imagery date of 21 November for me... > yet no tweet ... > > > > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.671647,152.89602&z=19&t=k > > Same thing with the last Sydney imagery... The tweet went out yesterday... The

Re: [talk-au] Can't see the facts for the FUD

2009-12-07 Thread Liz
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote: > I came across this today*, if it is of any interest: > > http://www.ands.org.au/guides/cc-and-data.html > > Steve > * At work. Legitimately work related! well it is of interest the whole collection is protected under the Australian version (in Australia I

Re: [talk-au] Blanchetown

2009-12-07 Thread Liz
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Nick Hocking wrote: > I'll be driving from Canberra to Adelaide on December 22nd. > > Normally I would turn left at Balranald but I coulf just go straight ahead > and maybe survey Paringa and stay overnight at Renmark. still a few villages to do on the southern road but Peter ha

Re: [talk-au] Blanchetown

2009-12-07 Thread Nick Hocking
I'll be driving from Canberra to Adelaide on December 22nd. Normally I would turn left at Balranald but I coulf just go straight ahead and maybe survey Paringa and stay overnight at Renmark. On the way out (Jan 3) I could do a little bit more... I was contemplating Manangatang but someone seems

Re: [talk-au] Can't see the facts for the FUD

2009-12-07 Thread Steve Bennett
I came across this today*, if it is of any interest: http://www.ands.org.au/guides/cc-and-data.html Steve * At work. Legitimately work related! ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Can't see the facts for the FUD

2009-12-07 Thread James Livingston
On 07/12/2009, at 7:29 PM, John Smith wrote: > 2009/12/7 Liz : >> James has been pointing out that the Feds, who can afford good lawyers, find >> CC-by-Sa and CC-by as quite satisfactory in Australia. > > As far as I can gather CC-BY-SA most likely won't work in the US, so I > can only guess that

Re: [talk-au] Can't see the facts for the FUD

2009-12-07 Thread John Smith
2009/12/7 Liz : > and we are not in a position to agree to a change without am opinion by a > lawyer on our lawyer, not a licence working group member's opinion on our law. I agree, but I don't have any legal resources at my disposal, although the OSGeo guys might. > James has been pointing out t

Re: [talk-au] Can't see the facts for the FUD

2009-12-07 Thread Liz
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Liz wrote: > and we are not in a position to agree to a change without am opinion by a > lawyer on our lawyer, not a licence working group member's opinion on our > law. > > James has been pointing out that the Feds, who can afford good lawyers, > find CC-by-Sa and CC-by as quit

Re: [talk-au] Can't see the facts for the FUD

2009-12-07 Thread Liz
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: > So to me, the devil is in the details and I think we need to try and > get our own legal advice on how it will effect us in Australia because > so far they have had 5 legal opinions, but only for the UK and the US. and we are not in a position to agree to a