Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia

2009-12-16 Thread John Smith
2009/12/16 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Well the first part is mostly off-road type enthusiests that could help improve the amount of GPX data available to make maps. Actual another demographic that might be good to target and give examples highlighting the benefits of OSM would be

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-16 Thread John Smith
Travelling about northern NSW in the lead up to xmas I noticed this location: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/585129264 Is no longer a BP, but has Liberty signs up... BP states they update their dataset monthly but it seems they're a bit slack...

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: To be a complete hypocrit, I could check it out on my way to work tomorrow. If driving, I drive straight past it, if riding, I pass within a few blocks. Then again, had a quick look with streetview, looks like BPs on

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-16 Thread John Smith
2009/12/16 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Yes, it's definitely been razed. The big BP sign is still there, so it's unclear whether they're just rebuilding it from below ground level or what. Ahh ok, I couldn't make out signs from NearMap, then again I wasn't looking that much after seeing

Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia

2009-12-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/12/16 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Well the first part is mostly off-road type enthusiests that could help improve the amount of GPX data available to make maps. Actual another demographic that might

Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia

2009-12-16 Thread Chris Barham
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone on this list had any success approaching groups to encourage them to join? Can I make a suggestion that somebody approach Audax Australia as part of any outreach programme?. They do long cycle road rides in

Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia

2009-12-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.comwrote: Has anyone on this list had any success approaching groups to encourage them to join? Their club magazine, Checkpoint, is also looking for

Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia

2009-12-16 Thread edodd
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.comwrote: Has anyone on this list had any success approaching groups to encourage them to join? Their club magazine, Checkpoint, is also looking for

Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia

2009-12-16 Thread John Smith
2009/12/17 Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone on this list had any success approaching groups to encourage them to join? Can I make a suggestion that somebody approach Audax Australia as part of any outreach

[talk-au] Roundabouts and routing

2009-12-16 Thread John Henderson
To me it seems an important aspect of OSM that its routable maps work well. I had been using my Garmin 76CSx with OSM maps to check this functionality. Because the screen is too small for thorough hands-free checking, I've just bought a Garmin Nuvi 1350. I'm finding that using this to direct

Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia

2009-12-16 Thread John Smith
The Ulysses bike club might be another interesting one to approach, last I heard they had something like 1mill members, for those that don't know of this group you have to be at least 40 to be a junior member and 50 to become a full member and they're mostly accountants and doctors and lawyers and

Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia

2009-12-16 Thread Chris Barham
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:57 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: there should be examples of these types of map data already in OSM's DB so we should be able to not only write on the topic but illistrate it as well. I can think of a potential 4wd example, LandCruiserPark. I

Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia

2009-12-16 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, wandermap.net already donates tracks to OSM. Having more people contact varies sites; everytrail.com; wikiloc.com; bikely.com; bikemap.net and explain the benifit of both showing OpenCycleMap as a slippymap and donating GPS tracks. ... Will help. Im now regularly using the Google Earth KML

Re: [talk-au] Roundabouts and routing

2009-12-16 Thread Ross Scanlon
And this is because of the way the roundabout has been drawn. The first exit (west on Ginninderra Drive) isn't being counted as an exit because that exit point is also my entry point. In other words, it shows that one need not actually enter the roundabout to take that first turn. I

Re: [talk-au] Roundabouts and routing

2009-12-16 Thread John Smith
2009/12/17 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: Agree totally with John and likewise I have been editing roundabouts where this occurs. Adding in postcodes and the BP data I've noticed a LOT of square roundabouts... ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Roundabouts and routing

2009-12-16 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: Adding in postcodes and the BP data I've noticed a LOT of square roundabouts... The problem arises mainly with economically-drawn flared approaches to roundabouts, as that term is used in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout John

Re: [talk-au] Roundabouts and routing

2009-12-16 Thread edodd
John Smith wrote: Adding in postcodes and the BP data I've noticed a LOT of square roundabouts... The problem arises mainly with economically-drawn flared approaches to roundabouts, as that term is used in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout John So the wiki

Re: [talk-au] Roundabouts and routing

2009-12-16 Thread Ross Scanlon
The problem arises mainly with economically-drawn flared approaches to roundabouts, as that term is used in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout John So the wiki needs a note that flares (can) mess up routing ?? If they are drawn as in the third example in the

Re: [talk-au] Roundabouts and routing

2009-12-16 Thread John Smith
2009/12/17 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: If they are drawn as in the third example in the wiki then it's not a problem. It becomes a problem when you join an entry and exit flare to the one node, which is incorrect anyway. There probably needs some examples of what no to do on that page

Re: [talk-au] Roundabouts and routing

2009-12-16 Thread John Henderson
Ross Scanlon wrote: It becomes a problem when you join an entry and exit flare to the one node, which is incorrect anyway. Well put. John ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au