Actually after thinking about it some more, unless there is some
issues about choices of tags to tag these govt locations there is no
point not uploading the data.
I've just uploaded all 321 Centrelink locations now.
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I've just update a matilda location with information from their
website (types of fuel sold etc).
Any way, they list services on their station locations like hot food,
groceries, dry cleaning etc:
http://www.matildafuel.com.au/stationfeatures.asp
This is on top of the amenity:*=* tags I used for
Like I said before, I think making a wiki page and posting these
observations there would be more helpful in the long run than simply sending
them off into the ether that is this mailing list. The heads up is great,
but nothing much is going to happen this way.
Steve
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2009/12/20 Steve Bennett :
> Like I said before, I think making a wiki page and posting these
> observations there would be more helpful in the long run than simply sending
> them off into the ether that is this mailing list. The heads up is great,
> but nothing much is going to happen this way.
F
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:42 PM, John Smith wrote:
> I've just update a matilda location with information from their
> website (types of fuel sold etc).
>
> Any way, they list services on their station locations like hot food,
> groceries, dry cleaning etc:
>
> http://www.matildafuel.com.au/stati
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:46 AM, John Smith wrote:
>
> Feel free, but these locations are all tagged with fixme=not_reviewed
> and show up in things like keepright etc, and as I said before I even
> made a custom page for the bp locations to make it simpler again.
IMHO it would still be useful t
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Roy Wallace wrote:
> IMHO it would still be useful to create a wiki page to make a record
> of these imports, and importantly, direct people to instructions for
> using "keepright etc", direct people to the e.g. BP custom page, and
> direct people to instructions to get the "Ed
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:46 AM, John Smith wrote:
> Feel free, but these locations are all tagged with fixme=not_reviewed
> and show up in things like keepright etc, and as I said before I even
> made a custom page for the bp locations to make it simpler again.
>
Not sure if you have a pathologi
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Not sure if you have a pathological hatred towards making wiki pages, or
> how you end up thinking it's less work to send so many messages to this
> list rather than creating onebut whatever.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BP_service_stations
the
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Roy Wallace wrote:
> Specifically, though, I'm wondering why use amenity:atm=yes rather
> than atm=yes? Is there ever some "atm" that isn't an amenity?
>
>
It's for when there are several amenities sharing one node. Not that any
renderers/editors actually support
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Like I said before, I think making a wiki page and posting these
> observations there would be more helpful in the long run than simply
> sending them off into the ether that is this mailing list. The heads up is
> great, but nothing much is going to happ
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
>
>> Specifically, though, I'm wondering why use amenity:atm=yes rather
>> than atm=yes? Is there ever some "atm" that isn't an amenity?
>
> It's for when there are several amenities sharing one node. Not that any
> renderers/editors actually
Can a wikifiddler sorry wiki editor
sort out the two parallel lists at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Imports
and
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Data.australia.gov.au_projects
because it could be better done?
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2009/12/21 Steve Bennett :
> Not sure if you have a pathological hatred towards making wiki pages, or how
> you end up thinking it's less work to send so many messages to this list
> rather than creating onebut whatever.
Don't you know programmers have a dislike of writing documentation? :P
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, John Smith wrote:
> 2009/12/21 Steve Bennett :
> > Not sure if you have a pathological hatred towards making wiki pages, or
> how
> > you end up thinking it's less work to send so many messages to this list
> > rather than creating onebut whatever.
>
> Don't yo
2009/12/21 Roy Wallace :
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
>>
>>> Specifically, though, I'm wondering why use amenity:atm=yes rather
>>> than atm=yes? Is there ever some "atm" that isn't an amenity?
>>
>> It's for when there are several amenities sharing one node. Not that an
2009/12/21 Steve Bennett :
> But all I was suggesting was you dump the same text that you were sending to
> the email to the wiki instead. That's not dislike of writing documentation,
> that's wikiphobia.
Perhaps you should see how much I've updated the wiki before you start
trying to imply stuff
Just looking at a photo and it has a "Mobile Library Stop" sign in it
Are these common and I haven't been looking?
any ideas for a tag
amenity=library_stop ??
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According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add
an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node
(ie. bank, servo or chemist).
Also, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel describes
details for labelling different fuel types. This was (
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:39 AM, David Murn wrote:
> According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add
> an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node
> (ie. bank, servo or chemist).
>
> Well, that's a bit of a misrepresentation. It says it's better
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Liz wrote:
> Just looking at a photo and it has a "Mobile Library Stop" sign in it
> Are these common and I haven't been looking?
> any ideas for a tag
> amenity=library_stop ??
>
>
I have seen a couple of these around country Vic. I'd use whatever the tag
is for
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote:
> According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add
> an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node
> (ie. bank, servo or chemist).
for any reference you can find in the wiki, we can find a contradictory one
htt
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote:
> > Just looking at a photo and it has a "Mobile Library Stop" sign in it
> > Are these common and I haven't been looking?
> > any ideas for a tag
> > amenity=library_stop ??
>
> I have seen a couple of these around country Vic. I'd use whatever the tag
> i
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:49 +1100, Liz wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote:
> > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add
> > an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node
> > (ie. bank, servo or chemist).
>
> for any reference you
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:49 +1100, Liz wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote:
> > > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add
> > > an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node
> > > (ie. ban
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:42 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:39 AM, David Murn
> wrote:
> According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you
> should add
> an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an
> existing node
>
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 12:04 +1100, Liz wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:49 +1100, Liz wrote:
> > > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote:
> > > > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add
> > > > an individual node for an ATM,
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:11 PM, David Murn wrote:
> Actually, I just did read it, and put the pages side-by-side. The only
> difference I noticed, is at the top..
>
> Tag:atm=yes
> (Redirected from Key:atm)
>
>
Ok, quick lesson on MediaWiki for you all. Some pages in the wiki are
"redirects".
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:05 PM, David Murn wrote:
>
> Well, I never add any map data that I havent verified for myself, so my
> interpretation is probably different to those who mass-import data. Ive
> been to almost every servo in my local area, and have been marking
> features such as car was
2009/12/21 David Murn :
> According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add
> an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node
> (ie. bank, servo or chemist).
Assuming you have accurate information for the location, in the case
of most/all servos the ATM
2009/12/21 Liz :
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote:
>> According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add
>> an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node
>> (ie. bank, servo or chemist).
>
> for any reference you can find in the wiki, we can find
2009/12/21 Steve Bennett :
> Answer: David, you continue to create new nodes for atms, John, stack all
> the atm information etc on the same node, until someone surveys it.
Wasn't planning to do any different, it's hard enough to pin point the
location of a lot/most BPs from aerial imagery where i
2009/12/21 Liz :
> Just looking at a photo and it has a "Mobile Library Stop" sign in it
> Are these common and I haven't been looking?
> any ideas for a tag
> amenity=library_stop ??
The only mobile libraries I've seen go to schools, haven't see signs at all.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, John Smith wrote:
> Wasn't planning to do any different, it's hard enough to pin point the
> location of a lot/most BPs from aerial imagery where it exists, next
> to impossible in areas with no aerial imagery, although as I said
> before, it's pointless trying to
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
> I think using a bus route type could get muddled with public transport
> and we will have german tourists trying to catch the library truck to get
> around.
>
>
Still a better solution than alternatives. You could tag it amenity=library,
n
2009/12/21 Elizabeth Dodd :
>
> I think using a bus route type could get muddled with public transport
> and we will have german tourists trying to catch the library truck to get
> around.
>
Yeah, they're not really really related to bus-stops. All the mobile
libraries I've seen tend to do 2-3 st
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:43 AM, John Smith wrote:
>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:atm=yes
>>
>> this was Roy's point
>> amenity:atm=yes is not consistent with the page I just mentioned
>
> I didn't bother to check the wiki before doing this, but at the same
> time there was a number
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Roy Wallace wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:43 AM, John Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:atm=yes
>>>
>>> this was Roy's point
>>> amenity:atm=yes is not consistent with the page I just mentioned
>>
>> I didn't bother to check the
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Stephen Hope wrote:
> Actually, the closest thing I can think of is the mobile blood-bank
> collection vans. They operate in a similar fashion - any tags for
> marking them to use as an example?
>
>
Other things in the same category might include meeting points a
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Roy Wallace wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Roy Wallace wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:43 AM, John Smith
wrote:
> >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:atm=yes
> >>>
> >>> this was Roy's point
> >>> amenity:atm=yes is not consistent with the page I jus
2009/12/21 Roy Wallace :
> And on a slightly different issue, what source=* values are you
> planning on? For example, will source:atm=* be set also? It would be
> bad for someone to remove the fixme=not_reviewed without "reviewing"
> ALL details imported, including, for example, atm=yes...
The on
2009/12/21 Roy Wallace :
> I would still suggest atm=yes. The "amenity:" is redundant.
And the other amenity:*=* tags?
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2009/12/21 Steve Bennett :
> Well...not really. Not sure how "accurate" you need. if you know it's just
> inside the door on the left, that's pretty easy to map within a metre or
> two.
If you have aerial imagery this might be possible because you could
draw the buildings out etc, otherwise you ar
2009/12/21 Stephen Hope :
> may have a long wait. I suspect some sort of time tagging would be
> appropriate (eg Tuesdays, 10:00-12:30)
opening_hours=Tu 10:00-12:30
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2009/12/21 Steve Bennett :
> information=guidepost?
mobile_library_stop=Tu 10:00-12:30 ?
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:47 PM, John Smith wrote:
>
> You are assuming the only use is for rendering, have you seen osmfuel.org?
>
> http://www.osmfuel.org/enter
>
Uh:
You have asked Firefox to connect
securely to mail.suckfuell.net, but we can't confirm that your connection is
secure.
...
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, John Smith wrote:
> 2009/12/21 Steve Bennett :
> > information=guidepost?
>
> mobile_library_stop=Tu 10:00-12:30 ?
>
That's extremely specific. The chance of any renderer ever supporting that
is very low. Better to go for a more generic tag.
Steve
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2009/12/21 Steve Bennett :
> Not sure what's going on there. When I click on the "osmfuel.org" it does
> that.
They probably don't have virtual hostnames configured properly, you
need www in front.
> Oh, as opposed to amenity=atm?
I thought we were talking about amenity:atm=yes v atm=yes ?
> Cr
2009/12/21 Steve Bennett :
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, John Smith
> wrote:
>>
>> 2009/12/21 Steve Bennett :
>> > information=guidepost?
>>
>> mobile_library_stop=Tu 10:00-12:30 ?
>
> That's extremely specific. The chance of any renderer ever supporting that
> is very low. Better to go for a
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:22 PM, John Smith wrote:
>
> Compared to atm=yes rendering? :)
>
> It's not a bus stop and I wouldn't tag it as such as they could be
> incorrectly rendered.
>
> In fact some mobile libraries aren't buses, the only ones I've ever
> seen in recent times were semi-trailers
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