Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Mapping progress in Victoria

2010-01-05 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: They include all ways, not just vehicular roads. Essentially the State Government layer also contains some non-vehicular ways as well, so it is difficult to compare apples with apples. Is the State Government

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-05 Thread Richard Colless
John Henderson wrote: I go to the local tourist information place and start asking for names. They give me a photocopy of a street directory which shows all the names. But this photocopy has a copyright notice. Can I enter names from that page into OSM for the already-mapped ways? I

Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-05 Thread Richard Colless
Liz wrote: Be brave nothing ventured, nothing gained. a circular way (usually) one way (get that bit right) highway=type junction=roundabout may have a name, but not often join the other roads on Following on from this and some earlier discussion about naming roundabouts. I was

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: So if all you need is street names,use whatever published source you wish. Just make sure that you only get street names. And whatever you do, don't advertise it, or discuss it in forums. There are always some smart-arse

Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-05 Thread John Smith
2010/1/5 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: I was testing the Garmin's route instructions on some familiar roads today. Normally it says SW on Northern Road to Roundabout, followed by 2nd exit on roundabout or similar. but one part came out as SW on Northern Road to Northern Road, which seemed

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-05 Thread John Smith
2010/1/5 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: The issue of copying names from a street directory is very similar. The publishers of the directory hold copyright over the graphic layout of the map, but they cannot hold copyright over the street names themselves. Those That's assuming what they

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-05 Thread John Smith
2010/1/5 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Interesting. What strikes me about the street names thing is that in general, there's actually no way to prove it, other than by the person's own admission. Whereas with copyright breach in general, you can show a similarity between two expressions

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-05 Thread Michael Hampson
There are street names I have seen on Google that are wrong and I guess there are others if you went looking. (Don't mention the streets that just aren't there.) Regards, Michael On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:19 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/5 Steve Bennett

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-05 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: 2010/1/5 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: The issue of copying names from a street directory is very similar. The publishers of the directory hold copyright over the graphic layout of the map, but they cannot hold copyright over the street names themselves. Those That's

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-05 Thread John Smith
2010/1/6 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: I missed that Telstra case.  Do you have a reference to a good summary? http://www.copyright.org.au/pdf/acc/articles_pdf/A01n09.pdf ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] How do I tag a road that's also a major walking trail?

2010-01-05 Thread John Smith
2010/1/6 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: I've just set myself up with a login to the OSM wiki.  Should I simply refer to the above relation IDs and names in the wiki under Bush Walking and Cycling Tracks? I'd link to the relations, not just mention the ID numbers,

Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-05 Thread Liz
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Richard Colless wrote: Liz wrote: Be brave nothing ventured, nothing gained. a circular way (usually) one way (get that bit right) highway=type junction=roundabout may have a name, but not often join the other roads on Following on from this and some earlier

Re: [talk-au] How do I tag a road that's also a major walking trail?

2010-01-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:50 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I'm wanting to reopen this discussion. The context is long-distance walking tracks, and avoiding duplication of the relations covering them (as bits and pieces get added in different geographical areas). I've found a

Re: [talk-au] How do I tag a road that's also a major walking trail?

2010-01-05 Thread John Henderson
Steve Bennett wrote: I'll be adding the Overland Track in February Enjoy. I first walked that in February, 41 years ago. I grew a beard on that trip and still have it - never shaved since :) John ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-05 Thread Jamie Boyd
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:29:14 +1100 From: John Henderson snow...@gmx.com Subject: Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions To: Talk-AU at OpenStreetMap talk-au@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 4b4384fa.7060...@gmx.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed John Smith wrote: