Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
Why are you cross posting this to the talk-au list, that seems to indicate he's right... On 13 August 2010 16:20, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: >> I love the implication here that you're 'poisonous' if you don't support the >> license changes (an

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-12 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > I love the implication here that you're 'poisonous' if you don't support the > license changes (and vice versa). That wasn't my intention. To be clearer: * Some of us are supportive of the license changes, * some of us pull our heads in a

Re: [talk-au] License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins

2010-08-12 Thread Ben Last
I'd just like to mention that we have our lawyers looking at the CTs and the licences (in fact I was in a long meeting about that just yesterday) and we'll be responding to the LWG shortly. After that I hope we'll be able to make our position clear on the mailing lists. Regards Ben -- Ben Last

Re: [talk-au] License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
Nearmap as far as I know haven't agreed to the new Contributor Terms (CTs) or the ODBL, so anyone that has traced anything from Nearmap isn't able to agree to the new license, doing so would put you in breach of contract with Nearmap which would also breach clause 1 on the new Contributor Terms. _

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 August 2010 13:05, Nick Hocking wrote: > Ok - just to clarify. > > If I've edited a road then the bot does it's thing and then I make further > improvements, > the bots effect can be automatically  removed without losing either of my > edits. > I don't know the details yet, but the document

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 August 2010 13:07, John Smith wrote: > On 12 August 2010 22:03, Liz wrote: >> I can immediately think of an edit which could fall into the above category, >> and it would not be classified as "abusive" because it did add additional >> information to the tags. > > Not only that, but others o

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 August 2010 22:03, Liz wrote: > I can immediately think of an edit which could fall into the above category, > and it would not be classified as "abusive" because it did add additional > information to the tags. Not only that, but others on the talk-au list at the time thought it was a good

[talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Nick Hocking
"Thankfully worrying too much. We have the full history of all changes, his edits would not be carried across (unwound) but the existing data if approved for ODbL would be carried across. There is also a plan of action if people are found to be making these sorts of abusive edits. There is a full

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Liz
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Nick Hocking wrote: > It seems as though if someone ran a bot to add just one tag to most of the > streets in (say) Canberra On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Grant Slater wrote: > There is also a plan of action if people are found to be making these > sorts of abusive edits. I can immed

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 August 2010 21:28, Nick Hocking wrote: > Have I got this right or am I worrying too much? It's unclear what will happen at this point, since no one has the chance to actually disagree any more, although there was a thread about what to do about people that aren't contactable. The outcome w

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 August 2010 12:28, Nick Hocking wrote: > > It seems as though if someone ran a bot to add just one tag to most of the > streets in (say) Canberra and then failed to > agree to a re-licence, then all those streets in Canberra would be thrown > away in their entirety (or hidden from publicatio

Re: [talk-au] License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 August 2010 21:13, Richard Weait wrote: > There is no decline button, and no obligation to answer yet. Existing > Contributor Voluntary Re-licensing is for those who wish to accept the > terms and get on with mapping. To be valid there seems to be lacking a few significant details: * How

Re: [talk-au] License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins

2010-08-12 Thread David Groom
Its really disappointing that the introductory paragraph which says "Please read the agreement below and press the agree button to confirm that you accept the terms of this agreement for your existing and future contributions." does not containing any warning that if you have used any source whi

[talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Nick Hocking
I haven't read all the posts regarding this matter so maybe I have missed some clarifications but It seems as though if someone ran a bot to add just one tag to most of the streets in (say) Canberra and then failed to agree to a re-licence, then all those streets in Canberra would be thrown aw

[talk-au] License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins

2010-08-12 Thread Richard Weait
News today from Mike Collinson, Chair of the OSMF License Working Group: As promised, and long awaited, the next phase of the OSM License Upgrade has arrived. Phase 2 - Existing Contributor Voluntary Re-licensing [1] has begun, and you may indicate your acceptance of the new Contributor Terms fo