Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail is not a dedicated bicycle route

2014-09-19 Thread Mark Rennick
: Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail is not a dedicated bicycle route On 14/09/2014 11:25 AM, Mark Rennick wrote: I note there has been mapping of the Bicentennial National Trail as a ‘bicycle route’ in the Victorian Alpine National Park area. I have two comments on this: 1

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail is not a dedicated bicycle route

2014-09-14 Thread Warin
On 14/09/2014 11:25 AM, Mark Rennick wrote: I note there has been mapping of the Bicentennial National Trail as a ‘bicycle route’ in the Victorian Alpine National Park area. I have two comments on this: 1.*This trail is not a dedicated ‘bicycle route’*. // As stated on the http://www.bicen

[talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail is not a dedicated bicycle route

2014-09-13 Thread Mark Rennick
I note there has been mapping of the Bicentennial National Trail as a 'bicycle route' in the Victorian Alpine National Park area. I have two comments on this: 1.This trail is not a dedicated 'bicycle route'. As stated on the http://www.bicentennialnationaltrail.com.au/about/ web si

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail (adrianplaskitt)

2013-12-18 Thread Warin
Sun Dec 1 19:41:34 UTC 2013 > > From: Adrian adrianplaskitt at hotmail.com > To: > Subject: Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail > Message-ID: >mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Sun Dec 1 19:41:34 UTC 2013, Adria

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-12-04 Thread Mander Li
Hi  Steve, Are you telling me that, for the sake of showing the route in your site http://cycletour.org1. for every rail trail, we should have 4 duplicated relations - bicycle, mtb, walker, horse 2. for every bike route, there should be 3 duplicated relations - bicycle, mtb, walker Why don't yo

[talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-12-04 Thread Mander Li
On 30 November 2013 Ian Sergeant wrote: > We have relations for admin boundaries for entire countries, > and relations for cross-country railways and highways. > They'd seriously break if we made them into relations and > super-relations just to satisfy someone's idea of how many > is manageable.

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-11-30 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Ian Sergeant wrote: > Hi, > > It seems the point of the three relations is to identify which parts > of the trail are accessible to which categories of users. How do you > intend to encapsulate that info? > > What is the basis for splitting the trail into state s

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-11-29 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 30 November 2013 14:56, Mander Li wrote: > No such problem. There is one and only one official route that walker, MTB > and horse are able to take on; ie the existing 3 relations should be exactly > the same. Cool. So obviously you have the right idea that they should be de-duplicated. > The

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-11-29 Thread Mander Li
> It seems the point of the three relations is to identify which parts of the trail are accessible to which categories of users.  How do you intend to encapsulate that info? No such problem. There is one and only one official route that walker, MTB and horse are able to take on; ie the existing 3

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-11-26 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi, It seems the point of the three relations is to identify which parts of the trail are accessible to which categories of users. How do you intend to encapsulate that info? What is the basis for splitting the trail into state sections, and putting three relations into another reln? I don't th

[talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-11-22 Thread Mander Li
I tried to create a "Bicentennial National Trail" relation, but found 4 relations of this name: Relation 176684: created in July 2009 by John Henderson with route=hiking. This covers 213km from Canberra CBD to Taralga (half way between Canberra and Sydney) Relation 2347837 created on 13/8/2012

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-04-30 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: > They also need to have topographical maps for their trail guides but I'm not > sure whether OSM has that yet for Australia. It turns out that the trail I > was riding on is part of the BNT but is not yet mapped as such in OSM, so > I'll have t

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-04-30 Thread Daniel O'Connor
Am happy to help re technical convos - can talk about postgis/mapnik to render, or other things like slippy map solutions On Apr 30, 2013 5:35 PM, "John Henderson" wrote: > On 30/04/13 14:29, Nick Hocking wrote: > > The other day I was riding the push bike along some trails and got >> talking to

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-04-30 Thread Christopher Barham
On 2013-04-30 10:02, John Henderson wrote: I'd be delighted to offer what help I can. If it's any use, Qld portion dataset is available and may be on a compatible licence: http://www.nrm.qld.gov.au/services_resources/item_details.php?item_id=34193 The data is hard to link to: in the "Searc

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-04-30 Thread John Henderson
On 30/04/13 14:29, Nick Hocking wrote: The other day I was riding the push bike along some trails and got talking to some horse riders. It turns out the Lady (Jenny) is the ACT coordinator for (and also the secretary of) the Bicentennial National Trail Ltd. Naturally I dropped the term Openstre

[talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2013-04-29 Thread Nick Hocking
Hi The other day I was riding the push bike along some trails and got talking to some horse riders. It turns out the Lady (Jenny) is the ACT coordinator for (and also the secretary of) the Bicentennial National Trail Ltd. Naturally I dropped the term Openstreetmap and it appears that they are ver

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2011-10-05 Thread John Henderson
On 06/10/11 17:17, Steve Bennett wrote: Interesting. Who makes the changes? Do they update any signs? I did the initial mapping and some changes, but I notice that others have contributed updates. Generally, new signage gets added (although old signs on disused sections usually get left there

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2011-10-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:08 PM, John Henderson wrote: > Not to mention that BNT maps are usually out-of-date before they're even > printed. > > Even in my area (the part already mapped), the exact route changes several > times a year. Interesting. Who makes the changes? Do they update any signs?

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2011-10-05 Thread John Henderson
On 06/10/11 16:47, Steve Bennett wrote: It would be very cool to have it fully mapped. As a trail, it has the same issue as some other trails like the Tasmanania Trail, which really work best for horses and are problematic for cyclists (poor surface, obstacles) and hikers (lacking interest, long

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2011-10-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Chris Barham wrote: > I suppose that the reason it's not on OSM is because the guidebooks > with the route have to be purchased, are copyrighted, and in some > cases out of print or very hard to find. Yeah I know a bit about the BNT. It's also hard to directly map

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2011-10-05 Thread Ian Sergeant
Am I reading it right, that it is 250m accuracy data, with the trail as at it was 20 years ago? If so, we may want to consider the data quality. Ian. On 6 October 2011 13:56, Chris Barham wrote: > The 5,330 km National Trail known as the "Australian Bicentennial > National Trail (BNT)", is o

[talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

2011-10-05 Thread Chris Barham
The 5,330 km National Trail known as the "Australian Bicentennial National Trail (BNT)", is only partially mapped in OSM. Refs: OSM existing Route Relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/176684 There is a website regarding the trail here http://www.nationaltrail.com.au/ I suppose t