Hello Li
what happens when a track is tagged with 4wd_only=yes and grade=6?
Technically I'd see no issue having both those key combos present. In
practice not good in that one must be wrong but that won't upset OSM.
In the mainstream maps, the way should be rendered according to grade6.
The
Hi David,
Here is an example of why the grading combined with 4WD_only tags may not work
in conjunction in rendering. let's say all 4WD tracks are rendered using dotted
lines (very common on raster maps and widely adopted). What happens when it
already 4wd_only=yes but it's also tagged as
Hi Li, I still don't see a problem.
Firstly, I am not aware of any publicly visible map that uses the
4wd_Only tag. Maybe I am wrong, can you point me to one ?
But even if there is, and it renderes as you say, then its still OK
really. We'd see a dotted line and 4wd Recommended appended to the
Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
So if there is a sign 4WD only, then we tag it 4wd_only=yes, even if
it otherwise it might look like a 2WD road? (That is, the road
authority's assessment trumps our own?)
The National Park's assessment has at least one important attribute:
It's a legal
On 6 November 2012 19:27, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote:
Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
So if there is a sign 4WD only, then we tag it 4wd_only=yes, even if
it otherwise it might look like a 2WD road? (That is, the road
authority's assessment trumps our own?)
The National
I think thats what the access tag is for ?
Access values are used to describe the legal access for highway=*
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access
However, as you could forcaste, there is no 4x4 or 4wd value approved.
david
On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 20:28 +1100, Ian Sergeant wrote:
On
Hi David,
Just scanned your personal page quickly while i had spare time so sorry up
front if i missed anything.
A quick comment on the proposed grading. According to your proposal of tagging
grades 6-8, what happens when a track is tagged with 4wd_only=yes and grade=6?
Li.
On 06/11/2012,
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
When we first proposed (and started using) the 4wd_only tag, there was a lot
of pushback from people who complained that it was not a verifiable tag.
Track type had the same response. We were able to show them that there are
OK Li, you ask and you shall receive !
Here
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Davo#Draft_4x4_road_proposal
is my very early draft. You and everyone else is welcome to get stuck
into it, I am not thin skinned !
The OSM proposal page says to to be verbose, no one need tell me to be
verbose
Maybe the issue is that they cannot, in practice, sign every such bush
track ?
And I don't want them using my taxes to try ! Nope, I think its up to us
to make those decisions. And, dare I say it, apply common sense.
David
On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 14:22 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Sun, Nov
Hi David, although my opinion is that most render's try to simplify the the
stylesheet so the map for ease of comprehension and would not make use of these
additional attributes, I see your point and agree that it's useful data to
have. Since my company focuses on 4WD maps and navigation, we
Thanks Li, I have not put that proposal up yet, waiting on a response
to a related matter. Soon.
And when I do, I'll not be wanting just your vote, it will be your
input I will really need !
Maybe I should put a draft up on my personal page while we wait ?
David
- Original Message -
No probs david, and you'll be getting plenty of input from me, watch out ;-)
A draft would be great. Let me know when it's ready to review.
Li.
On 05/11/2012, at 9:10 AM, David Bannon wrote:
Thanks Li, I have not put that proposal up yet, waiting on a response to a
related matter. Soon.
Hi David, just my 2 cents on 4WD_only tags.
By adding a 4x4 recommended tag will add to the complexity because it's kind of
subjective as to which roads/tracks are traversable in a 2WD vehicle, therefor
adding another option for this key will further complicate the issue.
Li.
Li, I beg to differ. While I agree that grading of a 4x4 track is
subjective, so is much of the other data in the OSM database. Must be
that way.
The real issue is how important the data is. As I have mentioned, I am
concerned that maps are being rendered that ignore this data. Routing
engines
David,
When we first proposed (and started using) the 4wd_only tag, there was a
lot of pushback from people who complained that it was not a verifiable
tag. Track type had the same response. We were able to show them that there
are signs all over Australia that say 4WD only at the start of a
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