Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 May 2010 14:36, Steve Bennett wrote: > stick with it and be consistent. We should also make our tools as > flexible as possible, to allow people to search both abbreviated and > unabbreviated forms. Even to the extent that "Saint Kilda" should > work, even though it's never ever spelt out li

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-21 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: > If the info in the database is Alpha St then what's to say the it is not > Alpha Saint or Alpha Strip or Alpha Street and so you end up with lot's of > extraneous results. > > By entering the full type of street, road, etc it's then just a

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-20 Thread Liz
On Thu, 20 May 2010, Liz wrote: > There are some difficult ones which relate to Crescent and similar endings. crescent / court / circuit and green / grove > If we can't expand it, we should find out. Email the local council and > ask for the street name; knock on doors and ask the residents.

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-20 Thread Liz
On Thu, 20 May 2010, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Brendan Morley wrote: > > Yes, I would be *recording* what I *saw* in the field. > > FWIW, I think Brendan's got a good point. It comes down to what's > verifiable. I disagree with Ross that an abbreviation mapping can o

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread John Smith
On 20 May 2010 13:05, Brendan Morley wrote: > I was thinking more about the situation where they use the map to navigate, > either as a printout or even driving directions. OSM tells them to use > "East-West > Arterial Road" and all they can see on the sign is "EAST WEST ART RD"? Is it > the

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread Brendan Morley
On Thu, 20 May 2010 12:13:38 +1000, Ross Scanlon wrote: >> Think tourists who aren't familiar with the way we do things around here. >I has nothing to do with usage it has everything to do with storage in the >database. >If we tell a tourist to go to Alpha Street they can then enter into a sear

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread John Smith
On 20 May 2010 12:12, Andrew Gregory wrote: > abbreviations policy. It also means there's a couple of "St ." that I > need to go back and fix to "Saint .". Saint can be either St or Saint, eg St George shouldn't be expanded. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Invalid_Abbreviation_Expansi

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Brendan Morley wrote: > > Yes, I would be *recording* what I *saw* in the field. FWIW, I think Brendan's got a good point. It comes down to what's verifiable. I disagree with Ross that an abbreviation mapping can only work one way. It is possible to search for a

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread Andrew Gregory
On Thu, 20 May 2010 09:59:21 +0800, Ben Last wrote: > Street types are covered by AS4590, Interchange of client information, > Australia Post Address Presentation Standard. > > See also: > http://meteor.aihw.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/270020/meteorItemView/long I've added all the street n

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread Ben Last
Street types are covered by AS4590, Interchange of client information, Australia Post Address Presentation Standard. See also: http://meteor.aihw.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/270020/meteorItemView/long The fact that I know this is quite sad... Cheers b On 20 May 2010 09:46, Brendan Morley

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread Brendan Morley
On Thu, 20 May 2010 11:05:00 +1000, John Smith wrote: >On 20 May 2010 11:01, Brendan Morley wrote: >> Brisbane regularly have the street type abbreviated (ST, RD, MWY, ART) and I >> think it is better to record the "in the field" name as such. Even with >> accurate capitalisation. >> >> Think tou

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Thu, 20 May 2010 11:01:43 +1000 "Brendan Morley" wrote: > On Sun, 9 May 2010 18:59:25 +1000, Ross Scanlon wrote: > > >7. Abbreviations > > >- Abbreviations in street names are a no no. Read the wiki page at > >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name, DON"T do it. At the moment in

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread John Smith
On 20 May 2010 11:01, Brendan Morley wrote: > Brisbane regularly have the street type abbreviated (ST, RD, MWY, ART) and I > think it is better to record the "in the field" name as such. Even with > accurate capitalisation. > > Think tourists who aren't familiar with the way we do things around he

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread Brendan Morley
On Sun, 9 May 2010 18:59:25 +1000, Ross Scanlon wrote: >7. Abbreviations >- Abbreviations in street names are a no no. Read the wiki page at >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name, DON"T do it. At the moment in >the Bunbury area alone there are 380+ abreviated street names (accordin

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-09 Thread John Smith
Does anyone think it would be worth pursuing a more formal mentoring programme? I think currently some people do some form of mentoring on an informal basis, most of which doesn't get documented... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-09 Thread Simon Biber
From: Ross Scanlon > Have a look at Auckland NZ for some really excellent landuse mapping. Could list members also please take a look at my local area (Alberton, Rosewater, Pennington SA) where I'm nearly finished putting in all the footpaths and land use. Please do zoom in and let me know if I

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 May 2010 18:59, Ross Scanlon wrote: > I'm not looking at discussing these, I'm just advising that if you are > mapping then these things need to be taken into account. Maybe not, but I have a few comments anyway. > - I found several ways that are tagged source=nearmap and are clearly not,

[talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-09 Thread Ross Scanlon
Hi All, Some general observations on the state of mapping following on from the reverts of the Perth area items. I'm not looking at discussing these, I'm just advising that if you are mapping then these things need to be taken into account. 1. Intersections - All way intersections need some