Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Andy Owen wrote: > (oh, and someone suggested that if the roads were all in a > grid, you > could do smart things to take into account the redundancy, > and just > zig-zag through, knowing you can extrapolate later... I > don't know of > any algorithms that will find the best

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread Stephen Hope
This depends on the machine/software you use. My PDA/GPS (a Mio) can have the snap to road feature on and it will still store the correct raw log data. When mapping I usually turn it off, but for me it's not a requirement. Stephen 2009/6/18 Sean <4ey0ll...@sneakemail.com>: >One of the most impor

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Sean <4ey0ll...@sneakemail.com> wrote: > This is what I do.  I use paper > maps to plan my route.  I also take them > with me so I stay on that route or to make changes to my > route.  I also > use the maps on the GPS and the track log.  As you > driving around the > track lo

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread Sean
This is what I do. I use paper maps to plan my route. I also take them with me so I stay on that route or to make changes to my route. I also use the maps on the GPS and the track log. As you driving around the track log shows on screen so I know what streets I've done. I use a PDA to voice re

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread Andy Owen
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 19:27 +1000, Liz wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, James Livingston wrote: > > There's a nice mathematical algorithm for figuring out that. > It's a problem given to all computer science students to solve: > "the travelling salesman". > The more points to cover, the more processi

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Liz wrote: > It's a problem given to all computer science students to > solve: > "the travelling salesman". > The more points to cover, the more processing power it uses > > which makes the way the human brain can solve those > problems really cool. The difference between

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, James Livingston wrote: > There's a nice mathematical algorithm for figuring out > that. All you  > need for it is a complete map of the area ;) Jokes aside, just because we can't directly copy from other maps doesn't mean we can't use them to figure this stuff out, but u

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, James Livingston wrote: > Sometimes it does that a bit too much. Since I > started mapping, every time I drive somewhere that's a > reasonable distance away I keep thinking to myself > "Mark, bridge over XYZ creek.", "Mark, > four-way junction with ABC road". > I should proba

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread Liz
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, James Livingston wrote: > There's a nice mathematical algorithm for figuring out that. It's a problem given to all computer science students to solve: "the travelling salesman". The more points to cover, the more processing power it uses which makes the way the human brain ca

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread James Livingston
On 16/06/2009, at 1:08 AM, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > Now does anyone have suggestions on how to basically drive the > entire town the most efficiently with the minimal amount of overlap, > or how does one plan such a feat. There's a nice mathematical algorithm for figuring out that. All you nee

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread James Livingston
On 16/06/2009, at 1:52 PM, Liz wrote: On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > Most likely I'll be returning via a different direction, I don't > particularlly like going out west, there is whole lots of nothing inbetween > a few somethings. OSM makes you look for somethings out there be

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-16 Thread Liz
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > > > what did you say about geocachers?? > > > > Been some accidents while people were concentrating more on their GPS > > than on the road, trying to find the link with photos but nothing is > > coming up in go

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-16 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Tue, 16/6/09, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > I knew what you meant > > even osm wiki has examples of mappers coming to grief You meant this? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_accidents :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstr

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > > what did you say about geocachers?? > > Been some accidents while people were concentrating more on their GPS than > on the road, trying to find the link with photos but nothing is coming up > in google. I knew what you meant even osm wiki has examples

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Liz wrote: > I got a cheap mp3 player that offered recording but i > couldn't get it to work, so i quit that line of > investigation. > > could be worthwhile, certainly easier than writing on paper > on the steering wheel at speed Have you seen the photos of Geocachers not

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Liz wrote: > OSM makes you look for somethings out there between the > nothings. You have to, at times, squint and turn round, maybe pluck a chook to find it! :) > I know that country, and the Hay Plains still win for > nothingness. A few prickly pear, a couple of roos an

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Liz
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > I've been playing around lately on the best way to store street name info > and voice recording notes seems to win hands down because it is > easier/quicker, especially when doing it by yourself. You don't have to > stop or fumble with devices, you just t

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Darrin Smith wrote: > I'd agree. It's not a race so focus on doing the job fully > to the level > you are happy with on a smaller scale and come back later > to finish it. > If you try to rush and shortcut you'll only have to go back > later to > finish the things you find ou

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Liz
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > Most likely I'll be returning via a different direction, I don't > particularlly like going out west, there is whole lots of nothing inbetween > a few somethings. OSM makes you look for somethings out there between the nothings. I know that country, and

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Liz wrote: > It depends if they are set out in rectangular bocks or > wiggles Most of the streets in the towns given seem to be fairly straight, thankfully. > We photograph the street signs which means we go round > slowly I've been playing around lately on the best way t

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Liz wrote: > Personally I'd concentrate on doing one or two on the > journey up and one or two on the journey back. Most likely I'll be returning via a different direction, I don't particularlly like going out west, there is whole lots of nothing inbetween a few somethings.

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Darrin Smith
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:22:42 +1000 Liz wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > > Thoughts, hints and tips will be appreciated. > Personally I'd concentrate on doing one or two on the journey up and > one or two on the journey back. > One large and one small? I'd agree. It's not a ra

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Liz
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > Thoughts, hints and tips will be appreciated. Personally I'd concentrate on doing one or two on the journey up and one or two on the journey back. One large and one small? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@op

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Liz
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > Now does anyone have suggestions on how to basically drive the entire town > the most efficiently with the minimal amount of overlap, or how does one > plan such a feat. It depends if they are set out in rectangular bocks or wiggles rectangular blocks -

[talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
In my up an coming trip to SE QLD, I'm probably going to go through a number of largish, relatively speaking, regional towns that aren't mapped out except for a handful of streets and most if not all were from landsat imagery. Now does anyone have suggestions on how to basically drive the entir