Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread John Smith
On 5 July 2010 08:50, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: 3) use two separate relations (one amenity=school and one amenity=place_of_worship) that both have the building as the sole member. John might have further thoughts on this [IMHO very hacky] use of relations. Normally I might

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, No - I don't like the idea of using separate/duplicate features (e.g. an extra node) to describe something at the same physical location. ... So right now, I see four remaining options, IMHO all pretty crappy and

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread John Smith
On 5 July 2010 17:39, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: The only reason you gave against creating multiple nodes was you didn't like it. Seems fine to me. Especially since the church and school in this case are not really co-located: the centre of the There is no church, they're using a

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 5 July 2010 17:39, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: The only reason you gave against creating multiple nodes was you didn't like it. Seems fine to me. Especially since the church and school in this case are not really co-located: the

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread John Henderson
On 05/07/10 17:49, John Smith wrote: There is no church, they're using a school hall for church based activities... church is a significant amenity provided by that building, surely. It is, by all accounts, a place of worship. John H ___

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread John Smith
On 5 July 2010 18:52, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: Depends on the definition of church. If you mean 'building with pointy roof' then no (although some church buildings don't have pointy roofs). If you mean the congregation then yes. Depends on what the map is being used for - if

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread John Smith
On 5 July 2010 19:09, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: On 05/07/10 17:49, John Smith wrote: There is no church, they're using a school hall for church based activities... church is a significant amenity provided by that building, surely. It is, by all accounts, a place of worship. At

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread John Henderson
On 05/07/10 19:19, John Smith wrote: At most the church (as an organisation) makes use of a location, what's on the ground is a school facility that may have many such uses... Like a Post Office building also acting as a weather-monitoring station, for example? Just tag the Post Office?

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:18 PM, John Smith If we're tagging what's on the ground, Which we're not. There is no on the ground rule, guideline, axiom, suggestion or anything. Can we stop using this non-existent guiding principle? then it's a school hall, if you want to do minor uses this would

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread John Smith
On 5 July 2010 20:06, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Which we're not. There is no on the ground rule, guideline, axiom, suggestion or anything. Can we stop using this non-existent guiding principle? Ok, if we're not tagging physical objects what are we tagging? The gold brick road to

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread edodd
On 5 July 2010 17:39, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: The only reason you gave against creating multiple nodes was you didn't like it. Seems fine to me. Especially since the church and school in this case are not really co-located: the centre of the There is no church, they're using

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread John Smith
On 5 July 2010 20:21, ed...@billiau.net wrote: Interesting as the church as a building is a corruption of the original meaning I did try to make this point clear by stating organisation v building, however it's a little difficult to geographically map organisations, so all we're left with is

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 17:39 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, No - I don't like the idea of using separate/duplicate features (e.g. an extra node) to describe something at the same physical location. ... So right now,

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 July 2010 02:08, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: What about.. draw the school as an area/building, then simply put a single node for place_of_worship in the hall, maybe with opening_hours or something similar. So if there is 10 uses/users of the hall, we need to place 10 nodes?

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: I'm planning to add a local church, but rather than having its own building, it meets in a local primary school hall. What would be the best way to tag this? Should I place a node as usual over the building

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 02:21 +1000, John Smith wrote: On 6 July 2010 02:08, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: What about.. draw the school as an area/building, then simply put a single node for place_of_worship in the hall, maybe with opening_hours or something similar. So if

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-05 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. Why map any POI at all? I don't map everything - I choose what I think is significant. If you think it is significant that a particular church meets at a particular place, I think add a node. Same for cub scouts. Personally I'm not going to bother mapping where Scouts meet, but I appreciate

[talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-04 Thread Mark Pulley
I'm planning to add a local church, but rather than having its own building, it meets in a local primary school hall. What would be the best way to tag this? Should I place a node as usual over the building (place_of_worship= (etc)) with a note that it meets in the school hall? Is there a

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-04 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 23:33, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: I'm planning to add a local church, but rather than having its own building, it meets in a local primary school hall. What would be the best way to tag this? It's not really a church if it's a school hall, the church (organisation)

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-04 Thread Ben Kelley
I'm assuming that it meets in that location permanently (as in, it's regular meetings are always at that location). Here I have just put an extra amenity=place_of_worship node at the school. - Ben. On 4 July 2010 23:49, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: It's not really a church if

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a church without its own building

2010-07-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: Should I place a node as usual over the building (place_of_worship= (etc)) with a note that it meets in the school hall? IMHO, No - I don't like the idea of using separate/duplicate features (e.g. an extra node) to