Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/10/2015 05:11, Warin wrote: -1 Here am I taking nodes and making them areas - thus removing the node. I think mkgmap needs some improvement to get relevant areas into POI ... if that is a problem. I'd put money on a mkgmap 'expert' tell us that it is not a mkgmap problem as it can be

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Thread Warin
On 1/10/2015 4:50 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: I guess I was talking about navigating there by aircraft. A 'point' calculated for an aerodrome area would be good enough until you had to select a runway .. where you would want the end points of the runway .. not the node of the aerodrome (most of

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Thread John Henderson
On 01/10/15 20:44, Andy Townsend wrote: I'm no mkgmap expert and even I manage to do it, using the "--add-pois-to-areas" flag. :) Wow, mkgmap has come a long way since the early days. Time for me to have another look and revise my flags :) One of the things it needs to do to be really

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 1 October 2015 at 21:17, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 1/10/2015 4:50 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: > > I guess I was talking about navigating there by aircraft. > > A 'point' calculated for an aerodrome area would be good enough until you > had to select a runway .. where you would want

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Thread Ian Sergeant
I guess I was talking about navigating there by aircraft. For passengers, sure you'd want a passenger terminal location, and an entrance to the same. Ultimately, regardless of what form of transport you use, you are going to be navigating to a point. The question is there an automated algorithm

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Thread Ian Sergeant
Certainly when navigating to an airport, you need a 'point' to navigate to. An calculation of a valid airport point from a airport boundary that may often include industrial parks, etc, is problematic - verging on intractable. Having this point 500m off significantly breaks stuff. It's a

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Thread Andrew Harvey
When travelling to an airport, you normally travel to a terminal which are separately mapped, ideally with an entrance=main. Where would you put this point at say Sydney where international and domestic are on opposite sides? I think it's not the same as admin_center for admin boundaries. On

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Thread Andrew Davidson
You might as well clean it up as somebody is eventually going to find it here: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?schema=50=56568170 and do it anyway. On Wednesday, 30 September 2015, 19:31, Andrew Harvey wrote: Currently Melbourne Airport appears in

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-09-30 Thread John Henderson
On 30/09/15 19:31, Andrew Harvey wrote: Currently Melbourne Airport appears in the database twice, once as a node once as a way. Is there any reason why I should not move the tags from the node to the way and delete the node? http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/235151361

[talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-09-30 Thread Andrew Harvey
Currently Melbourne Airport appears in the database twice, once as a node once as a way. Is there any reason why I should not move the tags from the node to the way and delete the node? http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/235151361 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/305804278

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-09-30 Thread Leon Kernan
When I added the area there weren't a lot of airports locally tagged as anything other than nodes. I was probably being a little cautious at the time, i'd think it would be safe to merge them now. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Currently

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-09-30 Thread Alex Sims
Hi, Another “me too” as I have almost exclusively used OSM mapping in my Garmin GPS for a few years now. It’s highlighted all sorts of things, missing turn restrictions, wrong speed limits (not visible but affects routing), street names etc. Even works overseas, although I’ve mainly used it as

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-09-30 Thread Warin
-1 Here am I taking nodes and making them areas - thus removing the node. I think mkgmap needs some improvement to get relevant areas into POI ... if that is a problem. I'd put money on a mkgmap 'expert' tell us that it is not a mkgmap problem as it can be done. On 1/10/2015 12:04 PM,

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-09-30 Thread Andrew Harvey
@John I sympathies with your concern, but we can't hold up progress in the OSM database for the sake of a particular GPS vendor or piece of software not supporting the OSM data model. Right now with a point and area data consumers would need to try to automatically remove points where they are the