Agree, but still would think both are better. Plus, it's difficult to tag
the way(s), as we don't necessarily know where the 7% ends. Whereas the
sign is a single point location and can be easily geographical tagged.
On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, 8:03 pm Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 8/2/23
On 8/2/23 16:07, Andrew Hughes wrote:
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the quick responses!
Andrew Harvey: traffic_sign=AU:R6-22,G9-83 seems better than
traffic_sign=AU:R6-22;AU:G9-83 but I can see why you say both would
be valid.
Q: Let's say there is also another sign "Zombies Ahead" that doesn't
Does it need the "7k" in there as well?
Thanks
Graeme
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 13:54, Andrew Harvey wrote:
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> On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 12:44, Andrew Hughes wrote:
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>> Looking good. Given...
>>
>> Node: traffic_sign=AU:R6-22
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3227568911
>>
>> Way:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 12:44, Andrew Hughes wrote:
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> Looking good. Given...
>
> Node: traffic_sign=AU:R6-22
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3227568911
>
> Way: low_gears:hgv=designated
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/245284221
>
> Question:
>
> The tagging of the way does not
att wrote:
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>> I have just done Hobarts ‘Southern Outlet” as an example (and Mapillary
>> available at this location)
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>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/-42.91186/147.30856
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>>
>> *From:* Bob Cameron
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t#map=19/-42.91186/147.30856
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>
>
> *From:* Bob Cameron
> *Sent:* Sunday, 22 January 2023 4:09 PM
> *To:* talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"
>
>
>
> Some Mapillary "data rich" slow vehicl
I have just done Hobarts ‘Southern Outlet” as an example (and Mapillary
available at this location)
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/-42.91186/147.30856
From: Bob Cameron
Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2023 4:09 PM
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks
Some Mapillary "data rich" slow vehicle locations. (ie for
checking/testing sign recognition)
- Dorrigo mountain - Waterfall Way. (Just west/north of Thora) NSW
- Bendemeer to Moonbi - New England Hwy NSW
- Black Mountain south - New England Hwy NSW
On 22/1/23 15:01, Andrew Harvey wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 18:25, Andrew Hughes wrote:
> Hi Ben, Andrew, Graeme,
>
> Agree 100%, the hazard is the "steep descent" (or similar), which most
> likely (but not always) coincides with the include/gradient sign such as
> "15%" (and we might see "incline=-15" tag used as well).
>
>
Hi Graeme,
Thank you. The quiet "area" signage is a basket case for me, the reason
being most signage is " in residential areas" or "in built up
areas" and I have no conceivable way of defining those "areas" in OSM.
Maybe the sign could be tagged on a node, or maybe a node (member) of a
Hi Ben, Andrew, Graeme,
Agree 100%, the hazard is the "steep descent" (or similar), which most
likely (but not always) coincides with the include/gradient sign such as
"15%" (and we might see "incline=-15" tag used as well).
possible tags are:
hazard=Descent <-- because this is applicable to
Andrew beat me to it.
There is a speed restriction associated with the "Must use low gear
signs" under the road rules.
It states:
"you must drive in a gear that is low enough to limit the speed of your
vehicle without using the foot brake."
Unfortunately it's not a defined limit although
Good point. If it's a restriction, it should be more like the maxspeed tag,
maxspeed:hgv=*
So something like low_gears:hgv=designated rather than using the hazard key.
On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 11:25, Ben Kelley wrote:
> Just one thought on this:
>
> The "use low gears" it not itself the hazard.
.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Australia
>
>
>
> Cheers - Phil
>
>
>
> *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 January 2023 12:30 PM
> *To:* Andrew Hughes
> *Cc:* OSM Australian Talk List
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"
>
&
Just one thought on this:
The "use low gears" it not itself the hazard. It is the steep hill that is
the hazard (where the mitigation strategy for HGVs is to use low gears.
Same for rollover/sharp bend.
- Ben
On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 10:38, Andrew Hughes wrote:
> Thank You Greame,
>
> The
On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 09:38, Andrew Hughes wrote:
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> The https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hazard#Traffic_hazards tag
> seems very appropriate but in my mind, needs a :hgv namespace.
>
I wondered about putting exactly that but then thought that the sign
usually / often mentions buses
Thank You Greame,
The https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hazard#Traffic_hazards tag
seems very appropriate but in my mind, needs a :hgv namespace.
still not sure on the actual values but...tag/values I would appreciate
feedback on:
hazard:hgv=Use low gears
hazard:hgv=Long Steep Descent
- Phil
From: Graeme Fitzpatrick
Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 12:30 PM
To: Andrew Hughes
Cc: OSM Australian Talk List
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 at 10:40, Andrew Hughes mailto:ahhug...@gmail.com> > wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 at 10:40, Andrew Hughes wrote:
> There are other signage like "No Engine Breaking", could anyone propose a
> convention inline with the above that could be extended for such additional
> signage?
>
Answering in reverse!
I thought I remembered something about "quiet zones"
Hi All,
Can anyone suggest the most appropriate way to take ways where the road is
signed with "Use Low Gears"?
Bonus questions...
1. In the case of SA, there's online reference material and even an Act to
enforce this legally. How/Should that be tagged ref::: and how so, that
this is the SA
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