Re: [talk-au] highway=track update

2021-03-04 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks, Josh - good work! How about bare solid clay eg https://www.weekendnotes.com/im/007/01/duck-creek-road11.JPG Definitely =unpaved, but then unpaved=??? ? On a similar topic, I mapped an airfield in Western Qld the other day, & it was listed as being "sealed aggregate" - what would we call

Re: [talk-au] highway=track update

2021-03-04 Thread Josh Marshall
Eh, no time like the present. I may not leave these photos up forever but here’s just a quick sample of the variety of roads I go on. If we end up discussing these indepth I’ll put them somewhere permanent. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15u0CQQTI8GXhX8FeQcDvUoDUi9tByMWg?usp=sharing I

Re: [talk-au] highway=track update

2021-02-23 Thread Little Maps
Thanks for the detailed history Michael! As you say, most of the ways tagged ‘gravel’ in Australia could probably be re-tagged as ‘fine_gravel’ to more accurately follow the wiki and to accord broadly with common usage of the word gravel. Re compacted vs fine_gravel, personally I can’t tell

Re: [talk-au] highway=track update

2021-02-23 Thread Josh Marshall
This raises the question: how did the surface=gravel tag end up getting defined as large aggregate/railway ballast anyway, given it appears at odds with almost everyone’s usage of it, including other significant online references such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravel_road (which matches

Re: [talk-au] highway=track update

2021-02-23 Thread Michael Collinson
I don't map much in the US but do in Australia and Sweden. In both countries, I have rarely come across what I consider to be gravel roads, instead consider most unpaved roads and tracks to be 'dirt' or 'compacted': https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:surface%3Dcompacted Apropos the

Re: [talk-au] highway=track update

2021-02-22 Thread Josh Marshall
> > The approved OSM tag for surface=gravel > refers to railway > ballast, not the fine crushed rock or natural surface that usually occurs > on unpaved roads in Australia. However we call the fine unpaved surface > "gravel" in common parlance, and

Re: [talk-au] highway=track update

2021-02-22 Thread Little Maps
Hi Brian and co, in Victoria and southern NSW where I've edited a lot of roads, highway=track is nearly totally confined to dirt roads in forested areas, as described in the Aus tagging guidelines, viz: " highway=track Gravel fire trails, forest drives, 4WD trails and similar roads. Gravel roads