Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-03-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
I've done a blog post about how I used the landuse data tied to the Mesh Blocks to load as an underlay in an OSM editor (JOSM). http://andrewharvey4.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/using-abs-asgs-data-in-openstreetmap/ The data is a bit coarse in places but I think when combined with NearMap tracing it

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-03-01 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2011 14:04, Steve Bennett wrote: > Maybe someone could explain a bit more about this ASGS, and why it's a > good fit for OSM? The suburb and post code boundaries are great, depending on accuracy of course, because then you don't need to tag each individual object with the suburb an

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-24 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 15:12 +1100, {withheld} wrote: > However I still hold the community should accept the offer and be > grateful. Carping about internal politics just looks bad. And whiny. And > doesn't encourage anybody else ever offering similar largesse ever again. Well, to be fair, the comm

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-23 Thread {withheld}
On 24/02/11 14:46, Ian Sergeant wrote: > On 24 February 2011 14:33, {withheld} > wrote: > > > For 's sake, with due respect to Andrew Harvey and > Steve Bennett, shouldn't the community be a whole lot better off > expressing appropriate gratitude to

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:33 PM, {withheld} > For 's sake, with due respect to Andrew Harvey and > Steve Bennett, shouldn't the community be a whole lot better off > expressing appropriate gratitude to Marcus Blake for offering this data > and then pissing off and finding a use for it! > > No wond

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-23 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 24 February 2011 14:33, {withheld} wrote: > For 's sake, with due respect to Andrew Harvey and > Steve Bennett, shouldn't the community be a whole lot better off > expressing appropriate gratitude to Marcus Blake for offering this data > and then pissing off and finding a use for it! > Marcu

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-23 Thread {withheld}
On 24/02/11 12:50, John Smith wrote: > On 24 February 2011 10:52, Steve Bennett wrote: >> 1) OSM's core purpose is as a street map > > This hasn't been the case for quite some time. > > Not to mention that the previous ABS data has been very useful in > regional areas for plotting physical featu

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2011 10:52, Steve Bennett wrote: > 1) OSM's core purpose is as a street map This hasn't been the case for quite some time. Not to mention that the previous ABS data has been very useful in regional areas for plotting physical features, like roads, that couldn't be obtained any oth

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Marcus Blake wrote: > From the ABS point of view the principle reason for doing this is that an > the OSM database would hold a copy of the official version of the > boundaries and that this point of truth would be available for all OSM users > and downstream dis

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
Hi Marcus, Thank you for engaging with the community on this matter. My comments here are referring to the Mesh Blocks data I'm seeing, which looks like this http://andrew.liway.net/ABS_MB_2011_Landuse.png >From what I can tell... = 1. ASGS data into the OSM DB = == The ABS mesh block boundaries

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-22 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Andrew Laughton : Anybody who has used "nearmap" or Government data sources for their mapping therefore cannot agree to the new terms, and all of their data is going to be removed on 1st April 2011. Presumably most of the current ABS data will disappear automatically (as a special us

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 10:38 +0800, Andrew Laughton wrote: > Hi Marcus > > Unfortunately OSM has recently forced a change to it's licence > agreement to a version where attribution is not required on any copies > that are made of OSM data, probably to appease Microsoft and Bing maps > who will then

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2011 11:35, Simon Biber wrote: > of OSM is released under CC-BY-SA which is an attribution license compatible > with CC-BY. The attribution includes a link to a list of data providers and > contributors on www.openstreetmap.org in which ABS is listed. As of April 1st only accounts

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-22 Thread Andrew Laughton
Hi Marcus Unfortunately OSM has recently forced a change to it's licence agreement to a version where attribution is not required on any copies that are made of OSM data, probably to appease Microsoft and Bing maps who will then be free to charge for these maps, with no attribution at all. Anybody

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-22 Thread Simon Biber
Marcus Blake wrote Wed, 23 February, 2011 11:31:50: >From the ABS point of view the principle reason for doing this is that an the >OSM database would hold a copy of the official version of the boundaries and >that this point of truth would be available for all OSM users and downstream >distri