On 11/06/10 19:28, John Smith wrote:
> Thanks for going to so much effort, I was only expecting 1 or 2 shots
> of the same stile...
No problem - just a pleasant bicycle ride along the BNT for a retiree.
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On 11 June 2010 15:36, John Henderson wrote:
> I'm new to this digital photography thing, but I've photographed 7
> different cavalettis and put them here:
Thanks for going to so much effort, I was only expecting 1 or 2 shots
of the same stile...
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/51019...@n07/
I h
On 10/06/10 10:33, John Smith wrote:
> On 10 June 2010 06:49, John Henderson wrote:
>> I'm more than happy to go with "barrier=horse_stile", given that established
>> usage. I'll change the cavalettis I've already tagged, and look at putting
>> a note on the map features page when I take some pho
Jim Croft wrote:
> there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend...
Could you perhaps take a photo of it instead?
/camera snob
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On 10/06/10 15:08, John Smith wrote:
>
> As I said, it was just a stub page, feel free to extend it :)
I've added "In some countries, a horse stile might be more commonly
called a cavaletti or a horse hop."
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On 10 June 2010 14:33, John Henderson wrote:
> Shouldn't the page header and text say "horse_stile" instead of "horse
> stile" (ie, with an underscore instead of a space)?
I didn't put a lot of effort into the page, I just fixed this will a
wiki page tag...
> And would it also be a good idea to
On 10/06/10 11:15, John Smith wrote:
> On 10 June 2010 11:10, Jim Croft wrote:
>> there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend...
>
> Thanks, in the mean time I wrote a stub page:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dhorse_stile
Shouldn't the page header and t
On 10 June 2010 11:10, Jim Croft wrote:
> there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend...
Thanks, in the mean time I wrote a stub page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dhorse_stile
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Four messages in a row. Way to destroy a thread with verbal diarrhoea. *sigh*
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:55 PM, John Smith wrote:
> On 9 June 2010 17:29, John Smith wrote:
>> On 9 June 2010 17:28, John Smith wrote:
>>> Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse
>>> sti
there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend...
jim
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:33 AM, John Smith wrote:
> On 10 June 2010 06:49, John Henderson wrote:
>> I'm more than happy to go with "barrier=horse_stile", given that established
>> usage. I'll change the cavalettis I've
On 10 June 2010 06:49, John Henderson wrote:
> I'm more than happy to go with "barrier=horse_stile", given that established
> usage. I'll change the cavalettis I've already tagged, and look at putting
> a note on the map features page when I take some photos.
Can someone get a picture of one of
On 09/06/10 17:28, John Smith wrote:
> Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse
> stiles... like a turnstile but for horses...
Rather than a turnstile, more like the existing "barrier=stile", which
allows a walker to cross a fence using rudimentary stairs/steps to climb
it
Looks like someone else was asking for the same things to be included already:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/New_barrier_types#other_new_values
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:29 AM, John Smith wrote:
> On 9 June 2010 09:04, Franc Carter wrote:
> > One of the things I most wished for from my pre gps days was for maps to
> > have turn restrictions marked.
>
> Is there a good way to do this without cluttering the map?
>
Good question, my thought
On 9 June 2010 20:04, Liz wrote:
> well we should make one
> it may have limited use
It'd be nice if there were some Australasian cartographers we could
ask about these sorts of map design issues...
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Ben Last wrote:
> On 9 June 2010 12:47, John Smith wrote:
> > Most aussie maps show dirt roads as a dashed line, but this might
> > upset/confuse the Europeans...
>
> Is there no tag for "paved with gold"?
>
> b
well we should make one
it may have limited use
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:14 AM, John Henderson wrote:
> > On trails which horses use, there's often a type of above-ground "cattle
> > grid" called a "cavaletti". Typically, it would consist of about 4
> > widely-spaced logs across the track at a height
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, John Henderson wrote:
> On 09/06/10 09:40, John Smith wrote:
> > The name might be correct, but I don't think it is a good choice for a
> > name since it doesn't appear even in wikipedia, then again I can't
> > seem to find anything better, nor any images of permanent
> > instal
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote:
> Can you post any links to where you've seen these fixed barriers
> referred to anything but jumps?
because if you can't prove it to JS you'll be mincemeat on the wiki
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote:
> Generic shop icons, I think it's important that something renders on
> the map, even if it's just the name and a generic icon for points of
> interest like shops, currently on a select subset of shops are
> rendering
> http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/304
John Smith wrote:
> They seem to be
called horse stiles in NZ, or maybe it was a brit
> taking photos in
NZ...
I found the website of an Australian business, Town & Country Maintenance &
Fencing, based in northern Adelaide.
There's a clear picture and a description on this gallery page:
http
For those not on the talk list, there is a free set of icons someone
has produced, these could be useful for adding to trac requests for
new things to render:
http://www.sjjb.co.uk/mapicons/
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On 9 June 2010 17:29, John Smith wrote:
> On 9 June 2010 17:28, John Smith wrote:
>> Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse
>> stiles... like a turnstile but for horses...
>>
>
> And the americans call them horse hops...
>
They seem to be called horse stiles in NZ, or ma
On 9 June 2010 17:28, John Smith wrote:
> Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse
> stiles... like a turnstile but for horses...
>
And the americans call them horse hops...
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Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse
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On 9 June 2010 17:17, John Henderson wrote:
> There's plenty of evidence now that the correct term is "cavaletti". I've
> also found a BNT area coordinator, and active horsewoman, referring to them
> by that term.
Doesn't mean the term hasn't been abused, the only thing on google I
can find is ab
On 09/06/10 16:55, John Smith wrote:
> On 9 June 2010 10:08, John Henderson wrote:
>> barrier=cattle_grid
>> cattle_grid=cavaletti
>
> What about:
>
> barrier=horse_grid
>
> They aren't cattle grids, and they aren't proper cavalettis either
> from what I've seen, cavalettis seem to be horse jumps
On 9 June 2010 10:08, John Henderson wrote:
> barrier=cattle_grid
> cattle_grid=cavaletti
What about:
barrier=horse_grid
They aren't cattle grids, and they aren't proper cavalettis either
from what I've seen, cavalettis seem to be horse jumps these barriers
aren't meant to be jumped, in fact th
On 9 June 2010 14:14, David Murn wrote:
> One thing Id like to see tagged in some way, is railway ends. These are
> tagged as railway=buffer_stop, but dont have any indication on the
> rendered map. This makes it difficult sometimes to know if a track ends
> at the node, or if it simply hasnt be
On 9 June 2010 12:47, John Smith wrote:
> Most aussie maps show dirt roads as a dashed line, but this might
> upset/confuse the Europeans...
Is there no tag for "paved with gold"?
b
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On 9 June 2010 11:24, Steve Bennett wrote:
> I'd also like some basic surface information to be rendered. Dividing
I previously filed a bug for surface=sand to render the same as
natural=beach for exactly this reason:
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2873
> the surface universe into "paved/
One thing Id like to see tagged in some way, is railway ends. These are
tagged as railway=buffer_stop, but dont have any indication on the
rendered map. This makes it difficult sometimes to know if a track ends
at the node, or if it simply hasnt been mapped any further. All it
would need is a si
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:26 PM, John Henderson wrote:
> Not too good at bunny-hopping? Seriously, it's easy to carry a bike
> across, even with a load.
I don't know about "easy". Possible, certainly. The spacing and the
knee-height bars are pretty awkward - can't walk on the logs, can't
conveni
On 09/06/10 11:20, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Oh, is *that* what they're for. I have seen one or two of those
> around, like on a bridleway near Rowville, Vic:
>
> http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-37.958364,145.26343&z=22&t=h&nmd=20100416
I found an ACT government pdf which also stresses their usefulness
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:58 AM, John Smith wrote:
> Mapping a few things locally and noticed some things don't render, so
> I filed bugs about them:
I'd really like golf course features to be rendered. I find it a bit
ironic that Best of OpenStreetMap includes a golf course with bunkers
mapped as
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:14 AM, John Henderson wrote:
> On trails which horses use, there's often a type of above-ground "cattle
> grid" called a "cavaletti". Typically, it would consist of about 4
> widely-spaced logs across the track at a height of about a half a metre.
> The idea is that a ri
On 9 June 2010 10:08, John Henderson wrote:
> might be a little better. But I don't see the problem in applying the
> correct technical term to it up front. It's hardly more obscure than some
"correct" is pretty subjective when it comes to these things, since
most answers will be biased by cult
On 09/06/10 09:51, John Smith wrote:
> Best descriptive term I can think of is:
>
> barrier=horse_jump
>
>> From the quick reading I did, and this picture:
>
> http://www.texashorsemansdirectory.com/cavalet.gif
>
> A "cavaletti" is only one type of horse jump, so:
>
> barrier=horse_jump
> horse_jum
On 09/06/10 09:40, John Smith wrote:
> The name might be correct, but I don't think it is a good choice for a
> name since it doesn't appear even in wikipedia, then again I can't
> seem to find anything better, nor any images of permanent
> installations.
Almost completely obscured by cyclists, b
Best descriptive term I can think of is:
barrier=horse_jump
>From the quick reading I did, and this picture:
http://www.texashorsemansdirectory.com/cavalet.gif
A "cavaletti" is only one type of horse jump, so:
barrier=horse_jump
horse_jump=cavaletti
Might be more useful.
On 9 June 2010 09:33, John Henderson wrote:
> The name is correct. I've found several references to the need to cross a
> cavaletti when walking or cycling a track. And I initially got the name
> from workmen constructing a new one on the BNT.
The name might be correct, but I don't think it is
On 09/06/10 09:22, John Smith wrote:
> On 9 June 2010 09:07, John Henderson wrote:
>> Do I put it on the main international wiki, or just the Australian one?
>
> Map features page, but first I'd come up with a better name, even
> wikipedia couldn't find anything related to the 2 keywords you list
On 9 June 2010 09:04, Franc Carter wrote:
> One of the things I most wished for from my pre gps days was for maps to
> have turn restrictions marked.
Is there a good way to do this without cluttering the map?
These have real value and should be displayed prominently on a map
used for driving nav
On 9 June 2010 09:22, John Smith wrote:
> Dictionary.com had this:
>
> "A small, portable jump for schooling horses. Constructed of light
> poles, 4 to 6 ft long, resting on a cross of timber at each end so
> that the pole is 12 to 18 inches above the ground."
Sorry, wasn't dictionary.com was:
S
On 9 June 2010 09:07, John Henderson wrote:
> Do I put it on the main international wiki, or just the Australian one?
Map features page, but first I'd come up with a better name, even
wikipedia couldn't find anything related to the 2 keywords you list
below
> Just to make things more difficult,
On 09/06/10 07:59, Liz wrote:
> I thought that they were aligned horizontally, so wouldn't be bollards
> JH, you have to take a photo and put it on the wiki
> preferably with a link to an independent definition to stop the bickering over
> "what is it?"
I'll get a photo.
Do I put it on the main
One of the things I most wished for from my pre gps days was for maps to
have turn restrictions marked.
cheers
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:58 AM, John Smith wrote:
> Mapping a few things locally and noticed some things don't render, so
> I filed bugs about them:
>
> Rendering waterway=drain areas,
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote:
> On 9 June 2010 07:14, John Henderson wrote:
> > On 09/06/10 06:58, John Smith wrote:
> >> Does anyone else have any thoughts on what else should be rendered?
> >
> > I'm glad you asked, as I've been wondering what to do about a type of
> > barrier which is
On 9 June 2010 07:14, John Henderson wrote:
> On 09/06/10 06:58, John Smith wrote:
>
>> Does anyone else have any thoughts on what else should be rendered?
>
> I'm glad you asked, as I've been wondering what to do about a type of
> barrier which is missing from the wikis.
>
> On trails which horse
On 09/06/10 06:58, John Smith wrote:
> Does anyone else have any thoughts on what else should be rendered?
I'm glad you asked, as I've been wondering what to do about a type of
barrier which is missing from the wikis.
On trails which horses use, there's often a type of above-ground "cattle
gri
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