Re: [talk-au] Help needed with OSM Inspector error
On Jan 4, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 16:51, stevea wrote: > But it is a bit better than it was five minutes ago. > > & has now disappeared from Inspector, so you obviously did something right :-) > > I'll also leave the bus route relation to somebody who knows what they're > doing! Graeme makes a request, Steve does what he can (Warin and Steve have an on-list and off-list dialog), Steve leaves alone what he's not sure about in the relation, Graeme confirms that "something right" happened and that he agrees with Steve that leaving "the bus route relation to somebody who knows what they're doing." Just another good day in OSM and its mailing lists. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help needed with OSM Inspector error
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 16:51, stevea wrote: > But it is a bit better than it was five minutes ago. > & has now disappeared from Inspector, so you obviously did something right :-) I'll also leave the bus route relation to somebody who knows what they're doing! Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] US Trails Working Group
Hi, On 04.01.22 12:29, Warin wrote: > I have not as yet looked at hospitals, nor post offices... and I think both > of them are more useful to the map than Rural Fire Brigades. Within the envelope of stuff that is admissible to OSM, usefulness is a very subjective concept. If you are in the fire brigades, then maybe mapping a single fire hydrant is more useful to you than all of the post offices combined. It is commendable that you let your mapping be guided by trying to think about the "general usefulness for others", however this is not a necessary (nor a frequent!) trait in OSM contributors. Mapping what interests you is totally ok - and is often also the way to ensure that what is mapped is mapped well, because it is mapped by people who understand something about it! Of course this "let everyone map what they want" rule has its limits where one mapper's work starts to make life difficult for other mappers. For me, this point often comes when one mapper goes over board in creating giant relations that will slow down and confuse others (think of a newbie receiving a popup informing him that he has just edited the 5000-member relation "Outback NSW" and whether that was on purpose or so...). Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] US Trails Working Group
On 3/1/22 10:59 pm, stevea wrote: Mmm, mostly, I’d say, Warin. But let’s be careful not to encourage “only what my use cases are” too much. When you say “if it cannot be seen from a public, customer or permissive place then I don't really care to map it,” I ask for caution with this sort of attitude. This is too parochial and “it isn’t useful for ME, so I don’t care to map it” leans towards "it shouldn’t be in OSM.” This precludes a great many things from potentially entering our map. It “lacks object permanence,” (the understanding that objects continue to exist even when they cannot be seen, heard, or otherwise sensed). For example, a prison might meet your definition and fail to be entered, but I’d still like it to be in OSM and I might even map one if I know enough about it to do so. However, you do, of course, remain free to “not really care to map it.” That’s OK, but as everybody does that, OSM will remain under-mapped. There is lots to map. Some of it more useful than others. Not a question of 'leave that off the map' but rather 'what to add to the map that is of most use'. Example? There are ~1,300 Rural Fire Brigades as yet unmapped in NSW. Do they deserve to be mapped? Yes. But are other things more useful, and as yet unmapped? For example there are ~50 police stations missing from the NSW map. Which better to spend my time mapping? Which is of more use? I think the Police Stations are of more use to the general public when compared to Rural Fire Brigades... I have not as yet looked at hospitals, nor post offices... and I think both of them are more useful to the map than Rural Fire Brigades. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
