Re: [talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

2021-11-06 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 6/11/21 20:30, Simon Poole wrote: Yes, Gruyère is a cheese, it's named after the town of Gruyères see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruy%C3%A8res, very nice place BTW. That's why I was wondering :-), but I suppose the dairy industry explains it. I think Wikipedia is wrong on this one.

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

2021-11-06 Thread Simon Poole
Am 06.11.2021 um 10:22 schrieb fors...@ozonline.com.au: Quoting Simon Poole : PS: wondering why Gruyere has that name. Good question. The town is named for a variety of cheese, as the area's history is in the dairy industry. Cahillton Post Office first opened on 20 August 1892. It was

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

2021-11-06 Thread forster
Quoting Simon Poole : PS: wondering why Gruyere has that name. Good question. The town is named for a variety of cheese, as the area's history is in the dairy industry. Cahillton Post Office first opened on 20 August 1892. It was renamed Gruyere in 1950 and closed in 1960 Wikipedia Tony

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

2021-11-06 Thread Simon Poole
This is a somewhat unsolved issue in OSM modelling, as both area (extent) and node (assuming it is not simply the centroid of the area) convey geometric information that the other cannot. IMHO best would be to have a similar concept as we do for administrative areas that works for "places" in

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

2021-11-05 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 5/11/21 18:06, cleary wrote: Sorry. I should have written ...add the place node to the relation and its role would be "label". Done: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2428804 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

2021-11-05 Thread cleary
Sorry. I should have written ...add the place node to the relation and its role would be "label". On Fri, 5 Nov 2021, at 5:53 PM, cleary wrote: > Ideally suburbs would have a relation for the boundary PLUS a node for > the "label node" as part of the relation. I'm not so familiar

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

2021-11-05 Thread cleary
Ideally suburbs would have a relation for the boundary PLUS a node for the "label node" as part of the relation. I'm not so familiar with Victorian locations, but this example for South Albury in NSW is an example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5901488 Where there is a boundary and

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

2021-11-05 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Dian, I have an interested in mapping what I call, for want of better terminology, fuzzy names or sense-of-place and comment in that specific regard. In summary: if the suburb has a defined boundary, use an area, if it doesn't use a node. I would certainly NOT however use both to

[talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

2021-11-04 Thread Dian Ågesson
Hey all, I would appreciate the thoughts of the community with regards to suburb representations. In a recent change set (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/113355648) a node was introduced for Gruyere. Gruyere is on the urban boundary, but is technically in Metropolitan Melbourne. As