Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-02-01 Thread Ben Abelshausen
As a member of the DWG I can state here that data from any source not explictly allowed for usage in OSM will be removed regardless of personal opnions. Please stop if you are involved in any of these activities. This could actually compromise the entire OSM-project! So, whatever your opninion, it

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-02-01 Thread Glenn Plas
It doesn't matter how you see it really, since perception is reality. The owners of those DB's that got copied over will let us know how violated they believe they are. That is to be avoided as it costs money and OSF doesn't have stashes of that lying around. Glenn On 01-02-15 16:25, Andre Engel

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-02-01 Thread Andre Engels
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Sander Deryckere wrote: > I have a feeling I'm repeating myself. We're NOT talking about copyright. > There's no copyright involved in this case. Copyright doesn't matter here. > Copyright isn't the reason why OSM exists. > > We're talking about Sui Generis databas

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-02-01 Thread Andre Engels
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Sander Deryckere wrote: > > I have a feeling I'm repeating myself. We're NOT talking about copyright. > There's no copyright involved in this case. Copyright doesn't matter here. > Copyright isn't the reason why OSM exists. > > We're talking about Sui Generis data

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-02-01 Thread Sander Deryckere
I have a feeling I'm repeating myself. We're NOT talking about copyright. There's no copyright involved in this case. Copyright doesn't matter here. Copyright isn't the reason why OSM exists. We're talking about Sui Generis database rights ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_Directive). The p

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-02-01 Thread André Pirard
Once again, facts and information cannot be copyrighted, and especially the law. The drawing (a piece of art) cannot be reproduced but you are not required to phone the Town Administration for a survey and ask them one by one if what you see on the map is correct. Even the drawings of road signs is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-02-01 Thread Andre Engels
How would this be breaking database rights? First, a drawn map isn't a database. Second, to be protected under database rights, there has to be significant expenditure (of time or other resources) in the creation of the database (not in the mere collection of the data). And third, database rights a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-01-31 Thread Sander Deryckere
We're not talking about copyright, but database right. Someone put effort in gathering the data, even if it's a small effort, this still counts. In European law, this work is protected by the database rights. Certainly when it's not the only way to gather the information. In this case, it's possib

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-01-31 Thread Andre Engels
Nothing illegal about getting *information* from a map. Information cannot be copyrighted, only the way in which the information is presented. André Engels On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Sander Deryckere wrote: > See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane > > More precisely parkin

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-01-31 Thread Sander Deryckere
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane More precisely parking:condition:both:maxstay=... However, it's most likely illegal to use the map you show. It's better to survey those things. Regards, Sander Op 31-jan.-2015 21:38 schreef "hvdb" : > Hi, how can one map a street or zone

[OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking time?

2015-01-31 Thread hvdb
Hi, how can one map a street or zone with 'time limits' ? Here is a map from my village with several kind of 'parking time limits' on streets : http://www.heist-op-den-berg.be/544668.img ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.ope