Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-28 Thread PONCELET Nadia
alk-be@openstreetmap.org>; Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshau...@gmail.com>; Jo Simoens <winfi...@gmail.com> Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU Hi Ben, I'm really missing something in the logic, but how can 2 seperate datasets get common ground on this ? aka: how does it work that th

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-28 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hi Nicolas, Welcome back on this list, it has been a while! ;-) Thanks for taking this on. I have the impression that working openly with the community is for many > organizations a difficult step to consider and manage. > > I think that the human relationships play an extremely important part

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-27 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Dear all Together with Marc Ducobu as other member of the « OSM community » I have attended a meeting organized at VIAS (the former IBSR) by Herbert Hansen with representatives from the Siamu, Police and other (see mail here below). I have the impression that working openly with the community is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-27 Thread Glenn Plas
Hi Ben, I'm really missing something in the logic, but how can 2 seperate datasets get common ground on this ?  aka: how does it work that this single ID would be generated identically for 2 different datasets, given the fact that coordinates are not exactly 100% the same.  I don't see that

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-23 Thread Marc Gemis
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Roads if you need to contact some Wikidatians on adding roads. m. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Jo wrote: > If I understood correctly every single street name of the Netherlands is > already in Wikidata. > > 2017-11-23

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-23 Thread Ben Abelshausen
I think this problem can be solved with OpenLR, or at least to a level of acceptable quality comparable to mapping the ID's in OSM. I'm willing to help out with that, how that would work for examples for brussels: OpenLR, encodes a location on a network in a kind of ID like this:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-23 Thread Jo
If I understood correctly every single street name of the Netherlands is already in Wikidata. 2017-11-23 14:31 GMT+01:00 joost schouppe : > Jo, > Does Urbis hold the same authority about the correct street name as CRAB > does in Flanders? I've understood there might

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-23 Thread joost schouppe
Jo, Does Urbis hold the same authority about the correct street name as CRAB does in Flanders? I've understood there might not be a single authoritaive list for Brussels, but I'm not sure. Do you have an idea on how it would actually work on this scale with Wikidata? Do you know of some projects

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-22 Thread Jo
Urbis released all the data for the Brussels region several years ago, so it should be possible to use that data like we use CRAB in Flanders. My personal preference would be to work with wikidata identifiers for every street in and around Brussels. Polyglot 2017-11-22 21:09 GMT+01:00 joost

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-22 Thread joost schouppe
Hi Nadia, Nice to see you here! I've played with the idea of unique identifiers for OSM objects myself before. But it remains controversial in the international community (not so much in Belgium). Here's an article I wrote long long time ago about it. It's especially useful for the comments,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-22 Thread Marc Gemis
Hallo Nadia, nice to hear that the fire department is using OSM. As for the refs for the roads. There are a number of different systems in place for reference numbers that you do not see. In the UK they use official_ref or admin_ref [1] In France they have e.g. ref:FR:FANTOIR and there is also

[OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU

2017-11-22 Thread PONCELET Nadia
Hello everyone, The SIAMU (fire brigade and of urgent medical aid of the Brussels Region) presently uses OpenStreetMap in several of its applications, in particular to define preferential routes for emergency vehicles in Brussels. We work at the moment with Champs Libres to ensure a regular