Re: [OSM-talk-be] YES, we can trace the PICC

2017-05-30 Thread joost schouppe
Hi André, I know that the situation is quite clear to you. But it obviously it is not to everyone. The point of this discussion is not convincing you. It is about convincing the community. Repeating how certain you are about your opinion and calling others names is not the way to do that. The WMS

Re: [OSM-talk-be] YES, we can trace the PICC

2017-05-27 Thread André Pirard
Hi, This is the last e-mail I'll write about this because it's very clear that the SPW allows OSM to trace the PICC. On 2017-05-11 08:53, joost schouppe wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry, this became a rather long mail. But it is important, and I > tried to be as clear as possible. > > Meanwhile I spoke wit

Re: [OSM-talk-be] YES, we can trace the PICC

2017-05-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-05-10 11:58, joost schouppe wrote: > > I guess Glenn’s point is that the license issue cannot be > circumvented, even if the king itself says something different > than its contents. > > André, could you elaborate the statement that tracing = consulting? I > don't really underst

Re: [OSM-talk-be] YES, we can trace the PICC

2017-05-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-05-08 15:09, mgwebm...@fastmail.fm wrote: > > André, > > I guess Glenn’s point is that the license issue cannot be > circumvented, even if the king itself says something different than > its contents. > > You said that Glenn looked at the wrong file, but as far as I can see > you didn’t pro

Re: [OSM-talk-be] YES, we can trace the PICC

2017-05-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-05-08 15:09, mgwebm...@fastmail.fm wrote: André, I guess Glenn’s point is that the license issue cannot be circumvented, even if the king itself says something different than its contents.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] YES, we can trace the PICC (was: Using SPW PICC layer in josm)

2017-05-10 Thread joost schouppe
Hi, Sorry, this became a rather long mail. But it is important, and I tried to be as clear as possible. Meanwhile I spoke with Lionel on our Riot channel [1] and with Simon Poole through legal-questi...@osmfoundation.org. If I understood, André says this: - the license for all the geoportail WM

Re: [OSM-talk-be] YES, we can trace the PICC (was: Using SPW PICC layer in josm)

2017-05-10 Thread joost schouppe
> > I guess Glenn’s point is that the license issue cannot be circumvented, > even if the king itself says something different than its contents. > I'm not really sure about this, but I think it could work if the copyright owner creates some official documentation explaining that tracing on top of

Re: [OSM-talk-be] YES, we can trace the PICC (was: Using SPW PICC layer in josm)

2017-05-10 Thread mgwebmail
André, I guess Glenn’s point is that the license issue cannot be circumvented, even if the king itself says something different than its contents. You said that Glenn looked at the wrong file, but as far as I can see you didn’t provide any other one. Did you ? From the OSM point of view, Wall

Re: [OSM-talk-be] YES, we can trace the PICC (was: Using SPW PICC layer in josm)

2017-05-07 Thread André Pirard
Très long message... Read throughout, up to the end absolutely! Highly important! Despite the explanation on SPW's site that PICC browsing & tracing is public domain and the report from Julien Fastré, recalled by myself, of what the PICC told him, the SPW would certainly not sue OSM for using the