Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Jo
> > What Ben really means is "tagging for the editor". Tagging for the mapper > should always be done, just as tagging for the data user. > > In the same way, you should tag for the rendering, but not for one > specific renderer. I mean that you should use standard tags, usable by a > broad range o

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Sander Deryckere
2012/11/29 Ivo De Broeck > Thanks Ben for your mail. I still believe that we have to focus more on > new or less expertised volunteers and stay open for new ideas. For that it > seems extremely important to have an up to date wiki. I also propose a new > rule "tag always for the mapper" ;-). I re

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Jo
2012/11/29 Ivo De Broeck > Thanks Ben for your mail. I still believe that we have to focus more on > new or less expertised volunteers and stay open for new ideas. For that it > seems extremely important to have an up to date wiki. I also propose a new > rule "tag always for the mapper" ;-). I re

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Ivo De Broeck
Jo, You did not have to please me. I think the hiking/foot story is a good example how OSM-Belgium is not working as it should. - New proposal - Voting - Changing the wiki - Run programs that correct things that are described in de wiki. PS: What has Germany to do with that??? Simply split ways

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Jo
> > > > Exemple : there was a majority for using "hiking" instead of "foot" > > (Potlach preset hiking instead of foot). Its not on the wiki and all > > "hiking's" were changed to "foot's". If we continue like that i am sure > we > > will lose a lot of people. > > For what it's worth, I did change

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Ivo De Broeck
Thanks Ben for your mail. I still believe that we have to focus more on new or less expertised volunteers and stay open for new ideas. For that it seems extremely important to have an up to date wiki. I also propose a new rule "tag always for the mapper" ;-). I really don't understand why it's forb

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 29 November 2012 15:58:13 Ivo De Broeck wrote: > I feel with you, you are not the only person is disappointed in the working > of OSM in Belgium. In my opinion a few people have here own rules > (examples: don't use names, put this info in a note, use JOSM, etc) and > neglecking hundred

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Ivo De Broeck
I feel with you, you are not the only person is disappointed in the working of OSM in Belgium. In my opinion a few people have here own rules (examples: don't use names, put this info in a note, use JOSM, etc) and neglecking hundreds of driven volunteers. In my opinion the problem is that there is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Jan-willem De Bleser
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:41 PM, A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > > When I started to map Belgian boundaries, I looked for instructions on the > Belgian pages and I found none. So, I looked at what was being done, I saw > that names were used on boundaries and I did the same. And now I am accused > of

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-29 09:23, Jan-willem De Bleser wrote : On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:51 AM, A.Pirard.Papou mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have presented this to tagging@osm, and I think I mentioned it on talk-be@osm: The municipality (L8=level 8) border segments (ways between tw

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Sander Deryckere
2012/11/29 A.Pirard.Papou > On 2012-11-28 12:55, Jan-willem De Bleser wrote : > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Sander Deryckere > wrote: > > Why municipalities and not part-municipalities? When you enter a village, > you get signs as > these:http://1.standaardcdn.be/Assets/Images_Uploa

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-29 Thread Jan-willem De Bleser
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:51 AM, A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > I have presented this to tagging@osm, and I think I mentioned it on > talk-be@osm: > > The municipality (L8=level 8) border segments (ways between two > municipalities) should be assembled with multilinestring to form > arrondissement L7 bor

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-28 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-28 12:55, Jan-willem De Bleser wrote : On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Sander Deryckere wrote: Why municipalities and not part-municipalities? When you enter a village, you get signs as these: http://1.standaardcdn.be/Assets/Images_Upload/2009/06/04/A7_BORDJE_IVH.MM.jpg.h170.jpg.28

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-28 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-28 12:09, Ben Laenen wrote : On Wednesday 28 November 2012 02:11:17 A.Pirard.Papou wrote: In order for my program (and others) to work and be useful, * *the names of the borders must be Municipality A — Municipality B* and not 30 times Belgium — Germany or Liège —Verviers. N

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-28 Thread Jan-willem De Bleser
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Sander Deryckere wrote: > Why municipalities and not part-municipalities? When you enter a village, > you get signs as these: > http://1.standaardcdn.be/Assets/Images_Upload/2009/06/04/A7_BORDJE_IVH.MM.jpg.h170.jpg.280.jpg > So the part-municipality is in a bigger

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-28 Thread Sander Deryckere
2012/11/28 A.Pirard.Papou > > Conclusions: In order for my program (and others) to work and be useful, > >- *the names of the borders must be Municipality A — Municipality B*and > not 30 times Belgium — Germany or Liège —Verviers. Note that this is >border identification. The names Bel

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-28 Thread Ben Laenen
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 02:11:17 A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > In order for my program (and others) to work and be useful, > > * *the names of the borders must be Municipality A — Municipality B* > and not 30 times Belgium — Germany or Liège —Verviers. Note that > this is border identif

Re: [OSM-talk-be] boundary names and my program

2012-11-27 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
Hi, I have improved my border scanning program. For additional fun, I computed the length of borderlines between municipalities. You can see the Province Liège result @ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Papou/OSM. I intend to check the borders for various kinds of errors later and build