Re: [OSM-talk-ie] What are your 'must map' features?

2019-09-17 Thread John Sturdy
I like getting overhead power lines and underground pipelines when I can spot them on aerial photos, along with substations, pumping stations and so on. Also, swimming pools and tennis courts tend to stand out (on aerials, again), so I map those when I see them. __John On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at

Re: [Talk-GB] Public Rights of Way data for Cambridgeshire

2017-05-26 Thread John Sturdy
It's interesting to compare their approach with that of the capital of what used to be one of the most closed countries: the Municipality of Tirana (Albania) is now putting (some of) its data online voluntarily, in co-operation with the local hackerspace. http://opendata.tirana.al/ They haven't

Re: [Talk-GB] the steepest residential street in England

2017-01-13 Thread John Sturdy
North Lane in Bath ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/2955824#map=19/51.37754/-2.33364) is very steep, but only side entrances to houses open onto it, so I'm not sure whether it counts fully as residential. __John On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:42 AM, Dave F wrote: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] web page element browsing history regression

2014-08-26 Thread John Sturdy
To me, the current version certainly seems like a step back; I presumed either it was done to meet some other requirements, or I had just stupidly missed finding how to do what I wanted, so I didn't say anything at the time. In particular, ISTR it being much easier on the previous version to go

[OSM-talk] New mapping satellite

2014-08-13 Thread John Sturdy
Announced in typical Register style: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/13/creepy_satellites_will_be_able_to_zoom_in_on_your_face/ I expect it'll be some time before images become available for OSM, though :-( And I'm not confusing resolution and accuracy! __John

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-10 Thread John Sturdy
I wonder whether these incorrect speed limit notes might not be reporting that the speed limit on the map isn't what it is on the road, but someone objecting to what the speed limit on the road is, and making a token protest about it? On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 1:24 PM, JB jb...@mailoo.org wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-04 Thread John Sturdy
I hadn't known (or remembered) that recommendation from the wiki; but still, the Ukrainian spelling (resulting in a Ukrainian reader understanding it as a reasonable phonetic imitation of the English name) may often be very far from a transliteration (letter-for-letting substitution) from the

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tagging of an area where Travellers live

2014-07-07 Thread John Sturdy
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:20 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote: I tag them landuse=residential residential=halting_site. This follows the frequent key=value value=subvalue scheme, account for the fact that a halting site *is* a residential area of some kind, and doesn't break

[Talk-GB] BBC article on volunteers mapping hillforts

2013-07-08 Thread John Sturdy
No mention of OSM that I can see, though; a different kind of mapping: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-23203500 http://www.arch.ox.ac.uk/hillforts-atlas.html __John ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Usage of lanes / turn restrictions versus multiple ways when road is not divided

2013-05-09 Thread John Sturdy
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:06 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.comwrote: What do people think of this: http://osm.org/go/0EQSJEoZT-- (aerial: http://binged.it/10kuDNm ) and this: http://osm.org/go/eu6_VCkLp-- (aerial: http://binged.it/16js1Ye ) I like these (although the first one

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik at zoom=19

2013-01-18 Thread John Sturdy
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr wrote: You can see what zoom level 19 looks like with Mapnik/cartocss style on http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=19lat=48.87206lon=2.30069layers=B That looks excellent; I'm sure this would be

Re: [Talk-GB] Pronunciation of place names

2013-01-10 Thread John Sturdy
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: My friend Terence Eden has some interesting comments on documenting the pronunciation of place names, in this blog post: Can we solve the problem of how to do this, in OSM? We could have a keyword convention for

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik and (no) Buildings

2013-01-04 Thread John Sturdy
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net wrote: Hi, I noticed that in the current render of Bremen there are quite a few buildings missing, especially some with tags like building=yes or building=terrace. Is this an error in the import or stylesheets? I don't

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-11 Thread John Sturdy
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 10/12/2012 08:18, Kevin Peat wrote: On Dec 10, 2012 1:25 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote No. We should be mapping physical objects... There are plenty of non-physical objects mapped in OSM As primary

[OSM-talk] My first coastline question

2012-10-29 Thread John Sturdy
In the view around http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.21134lon=-10.35719zoom=16layers=M, the road R549 seems to cross the coastline a few times. I brought up Potlatch 2 to try to fix this. It turned out that the photo data isn't available for part of that area, but I did notice that the

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Thread John Sturdy
How long does it take to check a map of China for accuracy? ;-) With the speed Chinese building companies can work at, I reckon at least one new city could be built in the time it takes to check the whole map. The check really seems to be that various points of contention are to be shown in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Shoud OSM Help move to Stackexchange community?

2012-08-29 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: I don't think this is a good idea if it means that OSM users need to register another account to participate in help.osm.org. +1 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] High Viz Jackets?

2012-08-14 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Are the high viz jackets on sale anywhere? You used to be able to get them shipped internationally from Gravitystorm but the page is 404. I'm thinking of ordering a bunch, so if the jackets aren't available, maybe

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] RFC: Names localization

2012-08-01 Thread John Sturdy
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Names_localization +1, generally; but I'm not keen on deprecating the bare name=* tag, because for many (perhaps most) named features, there is only one name. For example, a minor rural road in England will probably have a name (in

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW Ref codes (WAS:Hampshire Rights of Way Data released under OS OpenData licence)

2012-06-08 Thread John Sturdy
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: Is it not sensible to use the reference format of the place you are in, rather than create some sudo standard? A web application I'm developing straddles many counties.  So I've decided to adopt the scheme:  

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Ok, they don't name us, but I think a leading open source map does refer to us. http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ Oh wauw. We're not perfect. Let's close up the shop. Thanks to SteveC for

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest, if a road has no classification, and is made of mud and gravel, it's a track... The ones I reclassified typically had two wheel-tracks of soil-colour and grass between them, I think. If it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N

2012-05-20 Thread John Sturdy
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Worst Fixer worstfi...@gmail.com wrote: Also I propose removal of addr:housenumber=? on these objects, and move name=N to addr:housenumber=N. I think that should be done only when the name=N is actually a number. __John

Re: [Talk-GB] Post boxes!

2012-05-11 Thread John Sturdy
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Was thinking more along the line of asking him is he minds us using his photos to add the extra details to OSM (e.g. ref numbers, collection times, and royal cyphers). Or we could invite him to sign up to OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Transcription and internationalization in place names

2012-04-16 Thread John Sturdy
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, this is a great topic! There is one more issue with internalization and names. Users tend to add more than just names in name=* tags. For example Lago di Garda. If a machine tried to turn that into English, it

Re: [OSM-talk] Associated Press article: Crowds create Wikipedia-style maps of the world

2012-03-22 Thread John Sturdy
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Spod OSM spod...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/crowds-create-wikipedia-style-maps-of-the-world?utm_campaign=jt_newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_source=jt_newsletter_2012-03-22_AM Good -- they even mention it's data rather than

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping update

2012-03-19 Thread John Sturdy
I started to work on Hampshire, but got the following request from a decliner: I was wondering if you would mind refraining from 're-mapping' my contributions for the time being? I'm still in discussions with the OSMF regarding re-licensing some of my contributions which come from a 3rd party

Re: [Talk-GB] Vandalism changeset

2012-03-14 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Oliver O'Brien m...@oliverobrien.co.uk wrote: Hi This appears to be a vandalism changeset: 10947970 Details: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10947970 It would be great if there was a report obvious vandalism button on Changeset information

Re: [Talk-GB] Vandalism changeset

2012-03-14 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Odd Gustafsson odd_lars...@hotmail.com wrote: Yeah, adding: bridge=yes, foot=no, layer=5, oneway=-1 and surface=grass, to a road happens to me all the time ;) Sorry, didn't look closely enough! I just saw the odd-shaped road.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik slower than usual?

2012-03-07 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me, or are there more timeout magnifying glasses than usual? I've been getting that too. __John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Mapnik slower than usual?

2012-03-07 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me, or are there more timeout magnifying glasses than usual? I've been getting that too. __John ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread John Sturdy
The logical centre and the geometrical centre aren't necessarily anywhere near each other --- for example, what is generally thought of as the city centre of Cambridge UK is some way west of the crossing point between the lines between the northmost and southmost, and westmost and eastmost, points

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping tags generic (was: Wind turbines no longer rendered on mapnik layer)

2012-02-16 Thread John Sturdy
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: grumble Why create a key generator:power_source rather than just use power_source.  power_source is much more generic so you could re-cycle it for things like district heating, but generator:power_source is only ever

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding untagged dead-ends

2012-02-15 Thread John Sturdy
Something I'd like to have a way of highlighting, as I've been doing quite a bit of electricity distribution mapping, is power lines / minor_lines that end in something other than a transformer or pole. (In fact, any non-power tags on a power line are probably suspect, but one ending in an

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Finding untagged dead-ends

2012-02-15 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: I don't really see the value of a generic noexit=yes tag - it can and should be inferred from the network. But finding dead ends can be valuable for tagging the countless turning circles / cul-de-sacs that exist in

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Finding untagged dead-ends

2012-02-15 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: I don't really see the value of a generic noexit=yes tag - it can and should be inferred from the network. But finding dead ends can be valuable for tagging the countless turning circles / cul-de-sacs that exist in

Re: [Talk-GB] License changeover - Important West Country update

2012-02-13 Thread John Sturdy
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Contributor Guy has now accepted the new contributor terms and OSMI License View is already showing the new picture [1]. I had done some remapping in that area, before Guy agreed --- could someone now revert those

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-10 Thread John Sturdy
I've started to remap an area that I don't know from first-hand experience, as it's got a particularly high concentration of data that was mapped by a decliner. I'm remapping it from Bing (deleting old data and re-tracing it) which means that I lose the road names. I don't think this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-10 Thread John Sturdy
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: It looks like you've picked Exeter - a place I was also considering looking at when chance permits. Yes, I've started on Exeter. Don't let my having started on it put you or others off doing likewise! I picked an arbitrary

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-10 Thread John Sturdy
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: It looks like you've picked Exeter - a place I was also considering looking at when chance permits. The main decliner in the Exeter area has now accepted, so much less need now. I'll try to get my changes in that area reverted.

Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Spagehtti junctions in Cambridge and St Ives

2012-02-10 Thread John Sturdy
I've looked a bit further into disabled access to crossings, and raised it on the accessability mailing list, and found that there is a proposal to map crossing islands already (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Traffic_island). After mailing about this, I then realized that it

Re: [OSM-talk] proprietary keys and values, machine readable vs. humans

2012-01-24 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: the concept seems to be documented here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/UUID I don't see any mention of what should happen to UUIDs attached to ways, when ways are split or merged. Should

Re: [OSM-talk] proprietary keys and values, machine readable vs. humans

2012-01-24 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: Importing is difficult enough to do properly and I think updating that data is even more difficult to do. I think it would make more sense for some kinds of data (particularly, the more volatile ones) to have map servers

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2012 ???

2012-01-23 Thread John Sturdy
I'd be interested in attending such a meeting; possibly in helping to organize, depending on where it's hosted. __John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] How I got here - was Geocaching.com moved to OSM (partly)

2012-01-19 Thread John Sturdy
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: One problem I'd see around here is that this kind of data is not very stable (usually the dead remain only for 20 years in their graves, not for eternity, but this depends on the religion and local culture).

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for Romano-British features

2012-01-16 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: For something like this, where there is very limited overlap between past and present, it makes sense to use a separate database. But in cases where most of the features still exist, such as railways or Roman roads,

Re: [Talk-GB] Pigging potlach ...

2012-01-11 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Also, can you describe the freeze? ... As Richard (albeit fairly bluntly) said, we've not heard similar reports from other people, but they might just be silently enduring it. Any further help you can give us to get to

Re: [Talk-GB] Pigging potlach ...

2012-01-11 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I think there's always been a memory leak there with P2; I've noticed that sort of behaviour for months. I've only done minimal bits of delving into it, but suspect it's a case of _either_ some sprites being left

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

2011-12-28 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: On Dec 28, 2011, at 2:21 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: I should be more specific: this person goes to maps.google.com, they see a big map with a search box, they enter an address and pan around to look at their house or

Re: [OSM-talk] Moderating / Quality checking OSM contributions -- was: Re: OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model

2011-12-12 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: I agree with you when a large amount of new people start the quality can go down.  My theory is there needs to be a certain ratio of senior mappers to new people to keep the quality high.  However I think as people learn

Re: [Talk-GB] Project Drake - mapping the University of Cambridge

2011-12-12 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: What do other people think? If there's a strong view not to have these parenthesised bits there, I'll take them out of the name tags. I think it would be best to have the information somewhere, in a consistent form

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-27 Thread John Sturdy
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 November 2011 10:02, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: . Yes, “Former Brewery” is the former Ridley’s site. Bishop Nick launched their first beer at The Compasses, Littley Green (next village over) recently;

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-20 Thread John Sturdy
I'm sure this is a cider brewery, I've driven past it quite a few times and remember seeing the signage. (I used to live near Limerick). I don't know of any beers from Bulmers, I'm pretty sure they're only ciders. __John On 11/20/11, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: This was

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-14 Thread John Sturdy
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Borbus bor...@gmail.com wrote: distillery=whisky Do we need to make a distinction between whisky and whiskey?  I don't know much about whiskey, I seem to remember the difference is more than just spelling. Whisky (Scottish) is distilled twice (and the smoke

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-10-30 Thread John Sturdy
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Graham the one or two vineyards in the South There's some disgreement on how to tag these (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vineyard), between landuse=vineyard and landuse=agriculture

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Historic Features

2011-10-26 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am interested in creating maps of historical features (e.g all roman remains, medieval things, World War 2 things etc.). This could be extended to cover more everyday things, I suppose, but that would

Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag Police Memorial Trust (and similar) memorials

2011-10-24 Thread John Sturdy
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: I recently mapped a couple of Police Memorial Trust memorials, for example:   http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Police_Memorial_Trust/PMT_Local_Memorials/PMT-Swindells-2004/PMT-Swindells-2004.htm  

Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Marker Posts

2011-10-13 Thread John Sturdy
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Nicola Smith nicolasmit...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi  All, I appreciate it is something we don't necessarily map, but has anyone seen any gas/oil marker posts on their travels? I am interested in the sub-surface layout Me too --- I've been mapping quite a few

Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Marker Posts

2011-10-13 Thread John Sturdy
There's also a water pipeline heading northeast (again, visible on osmarender) at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.2165490686893lon=0.0422796607017517zoom=17 -- I remember it being built (I used to live near there). Again, I traced it as far as I could from bing. __John

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixme: A proposal

2011-10-04 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 06:56:51AM +0100, Ed Loach wrote: Nathan wrote: Would it make more sense to categorize by the tag? For example: *FIXME:name=yes *FIXME:maxspeed=verify that the entire road is 55 mph We don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixme: A proposal

2011-10-03 Thread John Sturdy
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:    FIXME=Do these roads join here?  Not clear on Bing imagery.  Survey needed. That will be a useful note for somebody planning to visit the area later so they can check this place if they wish. How about starting a convention

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixme: A proposal

2011-10-03 Thread John Sturdy
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: Only manually detected problems should be tagged with fixme. And it should be as easy as possible to mark those. Extra categorization would make it more difficult. I don't think it makes it significantly more difficult, as

[OSM-talk] Potlatch2 missing?

2011-10-01 Thread John Sturdy
The edit tab isn't working for me -- neither on my home machine, nor if I ssh through to my work machine. (Both running iceweasel on Debian, and I haven't reconfigured anything since it last worked for me.) The slippy map and placename search seem to be OK. Is anyone else getting this? __John

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch2 missing?

2011-10-01 Thread John Sturdy
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:43 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: What flash player are you using?  I seem to remember reading that FP 10 was needed now... ... ah - here we are: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/potlatch-dev/2011-September/001220.html That'll probably

Re: [OSM-talk] satellite Imagery missing

2011-09-21 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:33 AM, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 10:49 +0200, Erik Johansson wrote: 90% of my mapping is in such areas - gps, josm and repeated visits to the area are needed. Camera and laser range finder are a plus. Do you actually use

Re: [OSM-talk] Helping mappers feel comfortable about their contributions / quality control

2011-09-20 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:  Even today, I would find it confusing to edit a group of objects which have source tags - it would be more intuitive to put the source in the changeset, That makes sense to me --- surely most changes in a changeset will have the