Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [osmose-backend] Missing Parent Tag for all highways with bicycle = yes (#1)
I think anyone can remove them. Of course, it would be better to also contact whoever added them, so they do not make the same mistake again. Osmose seems to be rather stupid, and decides that if x number of objects has certain tag combinations, all objects that have one of the tags, should also have the others. It does not verify if the tag is appropriate for the object (node, way, relation). But it is still a valuable tool. So feel free to remove the route=bicycle if you have the time regards m On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 12:45 AM, André Pirard Papou a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-03-22 21:32, Marc Gemis wrote : This is the reply I got on my bug report to osmose. Do we have to locate those ways with route=bicycle ? m It makes no sense. route=bicycle is a tag for a relation, not for a way. It's very surprising that Osmose commands to repeat such a tag on ever cycling way !!! How could we identify a cycling route if all the cycling ways contained route=bicycle Either Osmose removes that test. Or the authors remove that tag (I bcc: one of them). Or I can remove 28 of them that I have ready after my selection. Your choice? Cheers, André. -- Forwarded message -- From: frodrigo notificati...@github.com Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [osmose-backend] Missing Parent Tag for all highways with bicycle = yes (#1) To: osm-fr/osmose-backend osmose-back...@noreply.github.com Cc: marcgemis marc.ge...@gmail.com Missing parent tag is a statistical analysis. Osmose suggest to add route=bicycle because this tag value is already a key as bicycle=yes, and more over because there is more than 50 ways with route=bicycle + bicycle=yes in Belgium. Maybe we need to apply this analysis on relative value inside of just 50. — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/issues/1#issuecomment-15319079 . ___ Talk-be mailing listTalk-be@openstreetmap.orghttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [osmose-backend] Missing Parent Tag for all highways with bicycle = yes (#1)
It makes no sense. route=bicycle is a tag for a relation, not for a way. It's very surprising that Osmose commands to repeat such a tag on ever cycling way !!! How could we identify a cycling route if all the cycling ways contained route=bicycle Osmose seems to be rather stupid, and decides that if x number of objects has certain tag combinations, all objects that have one of the tags, should also have the others. It does not verify if the tag is appropriate for the object (node, way, relation). But it is still a valuable tool. It's an automatic analysis based on statistical and an arbitrary trigger at 50 count. I can change the tigger, eg with relative value. Error was triggered with a parent tag like in highway=construction and construction=primary. The analysis have already a tag blacklist. I can add route=bicycle. These tags were used on some ways for some routes: if a route goes over a big square, an additional way is created going across the square. Really need tag on this ways ? Or add the area to route relation, or just no way at all. and I guess osmose wouldn't like untagged ways either Osmose report error on untagged way not part of relation (with role). But I haven't found any ways with both route=bicycle and bicycle=yes though. I found lot of them here : http://overpass-turbo.eu/?Q=way(%7B%7Bbbox%7D%7D)%5B%22route%22%3D%22bicycle%22%5D%5B%22bicycle%22%3D%22yes%22%5D%3B(._%3B%3E%3B)%3Bout%20meta%3B%0AC=50.67634;4.60636;12R There is some choses: - change the data - black list route=bicycle - use relative value on analyser to trigger at higher count. Frédéric Osmose analyser ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [osmose-backend] Missing Parent Tag for all highways with bicycle = yes (#1)
On 2013-03-22 21:32, Marc Gemis wrote : This is the reply I got on my bug report to osmose. Do we have to locate those ways with route=bicycle ? m It makes no sense. route=bicycle is a tag for a relation, not for a way. It's very surprising that Osmose commands to repeat such a tag on ever cycling way !!! How could we identify a cycling route if all the cycling ways contained route=bicycle Either Osmose removes that test. Or the authors remove that tag (I bcc: one of them). Or I can remove 28 of them that I have ready after my selection. Your choice? Cheers, André. -- Forwarded message -- From: *frodrigo* notificati...@github.com mailto:notificati...@github.com Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [osmose-backend] Missing Parent Tag for all highways with bicycle = yes (#1) To: osm-fr/osmose-backend osmose-back...@noreply.github.com mailto:osmose-back...@noreply.github.com Cc: marcgemis marc.ge...@gmail.com mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com Missing parent tag is a statistical analysis. Osmose suggest to add route=bicycle because this tag value is already a key as bicycle=yes, and more over because there is more than 50 ways with route=bicycle + bicycle=yes in Belgium. Maybe we need to apply this analysis on relative value inside of just 50. — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/issues/1#issuecomment-15319079. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [osmose-backend] Missing Parent Tag for all highways with bicycle = yes (#1)
This is the reply I got on my bug report to osmose. Do we have to locate those ways with route=bicycle ? m -- Forwarded message -- From: frodrigo notificati...@github.com Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [osmose-backend] Missing Parent Tag for all highways with bicycle = yes (#1) To: osm-fr/osmose-backend osmose-back...@noreply.github.com Cc: marcgemis marc.ge...@gmail.com Missing parent tag is a statistical analysis. Osmose suggest to add route=bicycle because this tag value is already a key as bicycle=yes, and more over because there is more than 50 ways with route=bicycle + bicycle=yes in Belgium. Maybe we need to apply this analysis on relative value inside of just 50. — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/issues/1#issuecomment-15319079 . ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
